Fixed the link.
We can't rename Narm, it's too universal.
I liked it better when Questionable Casting was called WTH Casting AgencyI'd have no problems cutting it, but I think a rename would be a bad idea. This is basically part of troper vocabulary by now, much as I hate it.
"Numb arm! Numb arm!"
Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.It's not failing to thrive and it's not being misused. That pretty much kills any reason to rename it right there.
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.If you want a discussion of it, some reasons to rename it need to be forthcoming. Otherwise, this thread will be turn into a thread about renaming-policy-in-general with occasional shout-outs to Narm.
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.read wrong, joke not funny
edited 5th Jan '12 1:22:39 AM by rodneyAnonymous
Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.Okay: the name is utterly non-intuitive and derives from a specific scene in a specific work. I believe that it's embedded enough in TV Tropes culture that there is nothing to do about it, but let's be honest here - if you were a newbie, would you have even the slightest idea what this was supposed to be?
After taking thirty seconds to learn about it, yes.
Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.We've got no guarantee that everyone will. And anyway, I think names this utterly work-dependent and obtuse should be considered bad regardless of misuse. I just think it's too entrenched to be renamed.
It is being misused.
People use it for any kind of unintentional comedy instead of drama winding up as comedy.
Put me in motion, drink the potion, use the lotion, drain the ocean, cause commotion, fake devotion, entertain a notion, be Nova ScotianI don't think that has anything to do with the name, though. There's no way you could have any idea what the name means if you don't read the trope page. If an editor reads it and still doesn't know how to use it, then he's just an idiot. We can't fix that, I don't think.
"Did anybody invent this stuff on purpose?" - Phillip Marlowe on tequila, Finger Man by Raymond Chandler.We can play this sort of game all day.
There's also no guarantee that many newbies won't be able to understand what Narm is or use it correctly, either. As long we're phrasing arguments like this, everything is a possibility and nothing is certain.
What's the difference? "Drama winding up as comedy" sounds pretty unintentional; if it's supposed to be drama or get taken seriously, it's not intended to be comedy or inspire laughter.
edited 5th Jan '12 7:10:56 AM by SeanMurrayI
Please feel free to start a general renaming policy thread in Wiki Talk, if you feel we need one. This is a non-starter.
Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
. . . and you probably know exactly why. I'm not even sure I want to rename it—what I want is to have the discussion and get it over with, so I can add a note on the discussion page saying that TRS has already gone over the pros and cons of a merge with Bathos or a rename to Unintentional Comedy.
Edit: It appears I screwed up the link.
edited 4th Jan '12 10:09:56 PM by feotakahari
That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful