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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#26: Jan 4th 2012 at 4:54:55 PM

Tailored Plot or Tailor Made Plot?

edited 4th Jan '12 4:55:15 PM by rodneyAnonymous

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#27: Jan 4th 2012 at 4:56:46 PM

[up] That sounds like it could be just tailored to one characters. Not everyone in the team gets to use their abilities.

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#28: Jan 4th 2012 at 4:57:52 PM

I'm not sure "could be wrong" is a very strong objection :) Just sending it up the flagpole to see who salutes.

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#29: Jan 4th 2012 at 5:01:39 PM

I like that Every Character Gets To Shine Plot indicates that, well, every character gets to shine in it.

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NoirGrimoir Rabid Fujoshi from San Diego, CA Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#30: Jan 4th 2012 at 5:28:24 PM

I actually kind of think Plot Tailored To The Teams Strengths or something works as well.

edited 4th Jan '12 5:28:51 PM by NoirGrimoir

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#31: Jan 4th 2012 at 6:30:04 PM

*ignore*

edited 4th Jan '12 6:31:40 PM by MyTimingIsOff

troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#32: Jan 4th 2012 at 6:43:33 PM

It would be nice to still have a metaphor, but a more resonant, straightforward one.

Rhymes with "Protracted."
rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#33: Jan 4th 2012 at 6:47:10 PM

Custom Something Something? Hm, not a metaphor. What kind of thing is made to fit many differently-sized-and-shaped pieces?

edited 4th Jan '12 6:48:06 PM by rodneyAnonymous

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Spark9 Since: Nov, 2010
#34: Jan 5th 2012 at 7:59:12 AM

The problem with snowcloning off "Eigenvalues" is that "Eigen" all by itself is a common word in German (and Dutch), significantly more common than the hardcore math term, and that this common word has absolutely nothing to do with the trope.

Firebert That One Guy from Somewhere in Illinois Since: Jan, 2001
ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#36: Jan 5th 2012 at 10:59:12 AM

Aw, this makes me sad. I loved this trope name.

Still, if it's not performing, can't argue with facts.

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Eric119 Since: Sep, 2009
#37: Jan 5th 2012 at 11:13:15 AM

Speaking as someone with a math background, when I first read the trope page my reaction was, "What the heck does this have to do with eigenvalues, eigenvectors, etc.?" In fact, the trope has nothing to do with them, just with an abstracted meaning of "eigen" as described in the Irregular Webcomic link (without which I would never have understood the name at all).

At the very least, the trope description should stop pretending there's a close connection to eigenvectors. (Linking to the Wikipedia page is completely pointless, and Irregular Webcomic equally so, except for the explanation at the end.) It would be better to change the trope name to something more transparent.

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#38: Jan 5th 2012 at 11:50:28 AM

The link to irregular webcomic is self referencing. The trope name came first.

Since there is no support for keeping the name, can we go directly to alt-name Crowner?

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Raso Cure Candy Since: Jul, 2009
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#39: Jan 5th 2012 at 11:51:44 AM

I think its safe to call.

I support rename but I would prefer using Eigenvalues Plot as the new name.

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#40: Jan 5th 2012 at 3:40:53 PM

That doesn't help much, if at all.

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#41: Jan 5th 2012 at 3:41:46 PM

No, that name will not help the stagnation sadly.

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NoirGrimoir Rabid Fujoshi from San Diego, CA Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#42: Jan 5th 2012 at 3:43:15 PM

Eigenvalue Plot is just as opaque as the current name.

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#44: Jan 12th 2012 at 8:37:26 AM

Calling crowner in favour of rename. Hooking alt titles crowner.

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#45: Jan 12th 2012 at 10:59:13 AM

I still like Eigenvalues Plot (the plural version; the singular version simply sounds too similar to what we alreayd have) better than the other suggested names.

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#46: Jan 12th 2012 at 11:10:24 AM

[up] Changing to that won't stop the fact that the trope is languishing in obscurity. The issue here isn't confusion or misuse. The issue is flat out under use. Going from one obscure title to another won't do anything about that.

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Morkhan Since: May, 2011
#47: Jan 13th 2012 at 4:44:49 PM

Might I suggest Everyone Is Awesome Plot as the new title? Just as descriptive as Every Character Gets To Shine, but slightly easier on the tongue.

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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TripleElation Diagonalizing The Matrix from Haifa, Isarel Since: Jan, 2001
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#49: Jan 13th 2012 at 9:14:34 PM

A problem I see with the leading option is that it will probably end up decaying to "most characters get A Day In The Lime Light eventually".

edited 13th Jan '12 9:14:49 PM by TripleElation

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#50: Jan 13th 2012 at 9:24:17 PM

That's why I don't want anything that loses the word "plot" in the name.

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AlternativeTitles: EigenPlot
12th Jan '12 8:37:48 AM

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Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the title will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative titles.

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