Argentine Politics Thread

A bit like Libya's Gaddafi (only with less death), it is within The Tyson Zone.

I'd just like to point out that's I've very deliberately been trying to use "Argentine government" instead of "Argentina" is my posts so as to make this exact point.

'The lion roars but does not inspire fear', Argentina tells Britain.

Seriously... They're going to start backing Assad just because he annoys us? I get that they think we're "colonialist oppressors" and such, but this is just getting silly.

"escalation of verbal attacks"

...

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Chutzpah points for Argentina, I guess, but that's about it.

edited 4th Jan '14 1:40:29 AM by Nohbody

The hypocrisy is par the course at this point, but you'd think they (the government that is) could try and retain some decency by not aligning themselves with murderous dictatorships...

Aaaand once again argentina decides that since argentines compulsively spam any online poll on the Falklands to make it reflect their obsession, that clearly means that this means the british public supports them

http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/149184/uk-poll-reveals-63-believe-malvinas-%E2%80%98should-be-argentinean%E2%80%99

Wonder which moron in the argentine government will try to spin this in their favour

^ By this point, can't you just throw a dart at a printed-out list of senior Argentinean gov't officials and get about the same results as guessing?

Anywhere you find them they fight about that. I keep "las Falklands son británicas" on my clip board when I'm playing one game because of the Argentine players who get annoying.

And it turns out the new "malvinas secretary" is the first moron in government dumb enough to buy into the bullshit over the telegraph online poll demanding that the UK pull out because of that poll. All while declaring to send all those who fish or drill for oil in the falklands to the gulags.....somehow.

Is it just me or does the proverbial "bottom of the barrel" not even exist with argentina, because I could have sworn they would never get quite so pathetic as when their foreign minister threw a tantrum in London because no one bought his bullshit over the islanders being untermench. Seriously, just how low will argentina go in its quest to forever free itself from dignity and sanity?

Again, we enter this alternate dimension where threatening everybody and their dog emptily is a form of "dialogue". <_<

...He does realise how desperate it makes the government look, right? -_-

The penny finally dropes. Turns out castro was touting this as "proof" of her success in cowing the British public into submission to the argentine media as well as the "malvinas secretary" before the telegraph revealed the blindingly obvious facts behind the poll.

some quick math tells me somewhere in the neighborhood of 74% of brits want to retain the islands.

Did this really come as a surprise to them? <_<

Argentina restricts online shopping. Yep, their economy is in the toilet if they need to go to such lengths.

Although, it seems there's still enough time for Argentina to launch a Falklands currency note to mark anniversary

Britain is 'disappointed' with America over Falkland Islands, finds Commons report

edited 4th Apr '14 3:04:32 PM by Greenmantle

Remember, CFK thinks that Trafalgar-class subs are Trident capable.

What are her poll numbers doing?

Nah she just likes to leave out the "powered" bit of "nuclear powered", for once it's malice not stupidity.

There are no recent polls I can recall, the last one I remember from a few months ago had her image drop around 25-30% compared to her public opion peek (which coincided with the time of her victorie in the elections with 40 something percent of the votes) but recently the goverment has been trying to bring their image up by doing public friendly decsions. I would guess that because of the inflation and insecurity her image is lower, but who knows.

On other news, there have been cases of neigboors trying to do lynching of delicuents (no deaths so far) beacause they don't feel their security guaranted by the state..

So it's possible this is an attempt to rally Argentinians around the flag and try to whip up some disgust towards us tea-drinking pirates?

Most likely, yes. There are two important reasons to suspect that it is an attemp to try to stir up people patriotism.

First the 2nd of april was the 32 anniversary which is not a "special conmemoration" anniversary like the 50 or the 100 or the 200 anniversary.

Second, on one side of the currency is the siloute of the islands and on the other side there is the image of Gaucho Rivero a rural labourer that in the year 1833 led an uprising in the islands against the british in the islands, also in 1966 the Argentine National Academy of History considered Rivero and his followers common criminals but revisionism consider him a patriot.

There is also the reason that throught most of the Kirchner's govverment the topic of the islands was brought up to trye to be used as a distraction.

edited 4th Apr '14 10:30:52 PM by joaqs

...Considering who he actually seemed to be mainly after... It had sod all to do with "rebelling against the British". And, everything to do with "killing the bastards who stiffed me even before the British turned up — and, I know their names and faces".

Worse, he seems to have widened his target a bit if he terrified everybody in the settlement. <_< Most of whom, again, had nothing much to do with Britain.

edited 4th Apr '14 10:52:04 PM by Euodiachloris

I don't know all that much about who he was, I just did a quick read of the summary at the top of the Wikipedia article (the spanish versión and the english version) and took the one that made more sense of why he is put in a currency. What I mean with that is that the goverment must be pushing for the rebellion interpretation and not for the revenge interpretation, preferably that the revenge one to not even be considered as posible (which it is shown by the context and motive in which the new bill was announced).

I'm very leery of colonial tales of... people not getting along... that are spun into these pivot points in national history.

Mainly because I got force-fed them growing up in South Africa. When you step back and actually look at what happened... most of the time... it's either 1) very local 2) very personal and/or 3) a huge misunderstanding.

Horror! The mission burst into flames! It must have been the amaZulu that did it! (Um, no: try poor stabling conditions, drink... and a fight over not getting paid what you thought you were going to for the goods you just trekked over most of the country to bring.)

It's amazing how often "not getting paid what you thought you were going to" crops up. <_< Or "drink". In a frontier situation without regular policing, handy weapons just nearby and absolutely no building regulation... Add a handy scapegoat and you're all set to start a war. <_<

edited 5th Apr '14 12:16:58 AM by Euodiachloris