Never mind, possible spoiler.
edited 10th Dec '17 7:28:10 PM by HamburgerTime
There's one line in those reviews that feels like a big spoiler, if you read between the lines. And you don't have to read very far between the lines.
I'm annoyed at that and should avoid further reviews for the rest of the week.
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Not your fault, but thanks for removing.
edited 10th Dec '17 7:29:21 PM by Galadriel
Sorry. I didn't see anything that looked spoilery myself so I thought it was safe. I feel like a hypocrite now because I'm trying really hard to avoid them myself. Apologies again.
At least 4 that I counted: certainly not definitive, but it is supported by the little info we have.
WILD GUESSES BASED ON SPOILERS Hux bites early. Snoke bites it when Rey and Ren team up to assassinate him, before splitting over what follows-Rey wants to do hero things, Ren intends to screw everyone and set himself up a la Palpatine. The First Order has at least one Force artifact used for construction-a Star Forge or something similar, as one of the actors seemed to let slip that Snoke has 'limitless armies and resources'.
edited 10th Dec '17 7:37:23 PM by ViperMagnum357
She/her
Regardless of how things go in TLJ, Leia deserved a better son. Trash emo murderer 
edited 10th Dec '17 7:42:48 PM by wisewillow
Sorry again for possibly posting spoilers. I think I'll take a rain check for a few days. See you Thursday night after I sees it.
Destroyer of Worlds
Apparently in the FACPOV short stories (that are canon), Yoda was convinced he'd be training Leia and was disappointed when Obi Wan told him that he'd be training Luke instead.
"You can't change the world without getting your hands dirty."
For a non-spoilery topic, can anyone refresh my memory on when the original movie was first declared Episode IV?
edited 11th Dec '17 6:26:43 PM by HamburgerTime
Was mentioned a couple weeks back. Basically, Yoda was working off vague impressions-Luke was distracted and consumed with wanderlust, while Leia appeared serene and composed. In reality, Luke is very balanced, measured and thoughtful, which Obi-Wan knew firsthand; while neither had a good bead on Leia, who is a brash, impulsive hothead under the cool exterior.
edited 11th Dec '17 6:30:06 PM by ViperMagnum357
Would that it were so simple.
During one of the theatrical rereleases in the 80s
edited 11th Dec '17 6:29:16 PM by CrimsonZephyr
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
Gonna have to leave the thread now that people are posting spoilers, even under spoiler tags. Thursday cannot come sooner.
I just discovered this via Cracked.
"In 2015, Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige went on record
and confirmed that most of the movies in Marvel's Phase Two line-up (Iron Man 3 to Ant-Man) reference The Empire Strikes Back via moments in which various characters get their hands cut off."
edited 12th Dec '17 8:19:04 AM by lalalei2001
The Protomen enhanced my life.
I wonder if the Phase Three movies will have anything. Probably not since they want to diversify them up a bit to feel less samey so having those similarities would stand out. At least I haven't noticed any yub nubs in each film that I've seen.
Gooooooooooooooood...
Would that it were so simple.
I just realized it's been ten years since Sacrifice came out and they killed Mara Jade.
What a wild ride this fandom's been since then, for better or for worse.
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
Where do you think it'll go from here?
The Protomen enhanced my life.
Would that it were so simple.
Nowhere good.
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
Brightness
Somewhere good.
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Destroyer of Worlds
"You were the Chosen One. It was said you would unify the fandom not break it. Bring greatness to the franchise not leave it in pieces."
edited 13th Dec '17 8:22:58 PM by MadSkillz
"You can't change the world without getting your hands dirty."
She/her
I think we can all agree the franchise is going somewhere. 
I mean, is the franchise really in pieces? It seems to be doing a lot better than it was after Revenge of the Sith.
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
Going by critics and profit? It's fine. Going by the fanbase? Everything is on fire.
Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
Honestly, at this moment it doesn't really matter how split the fans are over it. Any long term effects aren't really gonna be evident until long after TLJ come out, as will their effects on future SW products. It took years of prequel bashing reaching memetic levels for Disney to go with the "safe" direction TFA took.
Honestly, by the time ROTS came out the fandom had come to accept that the Star Wars movies (including the OT) had their flaws and no longer had the compact storytelling that made the original trilogy so popular. The Clone Wars was the major production of note between ROTS and the Disney buy-out, and had built up significant levels of fan and critical praise by the end. So all the claims of "they needed to regain the fans trust" and "make Star Wars great again" didn't really make sense to me, it's not like the '85-'91 era where there was little of anything Star Wars related being made.
For me personally, whatever the flaws of the prequels you always had a sense that there was a story Lucas was trying to tell. Things were left deliberately unresolved in TPM and AOTC that eventually came to fruition in ROTS, but the individual movies still made sense and stood alone. Of course, being prequels meant there was a Foregone Conclusion.
When I watched TFA there was so little story I lost interest in what the sequel trilogy could become. All I saw was a desperate effort to make the characters likable, but a collision of a dozen different ideas with only the thinnest narrative (if the goal of the movie is to find Luke Skywalker, that should not occur in the epilogue). Give me a good, clear story and I'm more likely to like the characters within. Future movies always have the chance to turn it around, but the novelty of more Star Wars is not enough for me.
How'd his parents mange that?