Personally I'd like to see something I couldn't predict; something between between Return of the Jedi and The Force Awakens.
(Saying that, I think you could do a really intense spy movie set in Star Wars)
Because at the moment that entire group of decades is just a murky possibly? in my head.
Also, I've always said a sequel to Return of the Jedi was a laughable idea as the encounter between Luke, Vader and the Emperor perfectly concludes everything the film saga was about, but on my most recent viewing I did realise it makes sense that Luke's quest clearly from this point on would be to continue trying to rebuild his family.
Shame Force Awakens is set nearly forty years later and we wont see that struggle, which might not include Mara Jade.
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The Episodes are really more about Vader than they are Luke. If you're gonna be making movies after 6, they can't really be "Episodes".
"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
I'm not so sure about that; Star Wars works well as a generational saga; a line of Skywalkers struggling against the setting and their own deeds. It helps also that the characters can continue to appear after they die.
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The evolution of Vader's importance is pretty interesting. In ANH there's no real indication he's anything other than Tarkin's enforcer, then he's suddenly second in command of the whole Empire, then he's suddenly the most important guy in Galactic history!
The trend even extends to the prequels, as The Phantom Menace more or less states He's the Messiah
"All you Fascists bound to lose."
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That's what I was talking about with the "most important guy" thing.
Something which they never actually told him.
I'm not fond of the prophecy, because it doesn't really add anything to the conflict; other than give the Jedi Council something to talk about behind Anakin's back.
edited 2nd Mar '15 6:34:46 PM by Whowho
I love the prophecy. Besides fitting with the overall mystic vibe of the franchise, I like how it's a sort of Double Subversion of the concept, as in that the prophecy at first turns out to be horribly misread, but then turns out to have been correct after all.
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Well Obi Wan does scream it to Anakin that he "WAS THE CHOSEN ONE!!! IT WAS SAID U WOOD DESTROY DA SITH NOT JOIN DEM!!! BUURIIIING BALENZ TO DA FORCE NUT LEAVE IT IN DAHKNESS!!!!"
edited 2nd Mar '15 7:11:40 PM by MadSkillz
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Yeah, they can, as evidenced by the fact The Force Awakens is literally Episode 7. It's right there in the title.
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If the original Star Wars trilogy really was "all about" Anakin Skywalker's redemption, Anakin would have gotten more than 12 minutes of screen time in A New Hope.
I didn't write any of that.
They should hardly be called "episodes" in the first place. The series is barely episodic to begin with. It's one big, connected arc. Not tiny little fragments strung together. But we call them that anyway for some reason.
Honestly, I'd prefer "Episode Whatever" to the "So and So Part 1 and 2" trend that's going on right now. Makes it feel classic.
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I think it's because Star Wars was inspired by episodic serials like Flash Gordon.
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I think it's more about the Skywalker family, not just Anakin. Between Han and Leia, and Luke potentially booting up a Jedi Order that allows families, there's still a Skywalker family (and their collaterals) to follow, even forty years later.
And if someone was to ask me to write the third trilogy, I would have to look at the tree trilogies as a three act structure, the riding problem is trying to have a family in The Galaxy (Far Far Away) The prequel trilogy is the struggle to make a family, the Original trilogy is the struggle to unite a family, it could stand to narrative reason that the next trilogy could be about recovering and propagating a family.
I say things.
Right,
and that Constantine movie with Keanu Reeves is definitely Constantine because they have the same title.
I mean what? What kind of logic is that lol?
I don't see it being about the Skywalker family, since Leia was hardly focused on as much as Luke and Vader. Collectively, the films tell the story of Anakin's rise, fall and redemption more than anything else. Luke gets so much focus in Episode 4 because he's the instrument that will lead to Vader redeeming himself, and he needed to be established. This is clearly looking at it in a revisionist sense since I doubt Lucas had all of this planned out when first making the movie Star Wars, but it works.
edited 3rd Mar '15 6:50:08 PM by Cruherrx
"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
What kind of "logic" are you on about, though? Are you saying The Force Awakens shouldn't be called Episode 7 because it's presumably not a movie about/related to Vader??? What kind of weird "logic" is that? The Force Awakens is Episode 7, and that's that.
edited 3rd Mar '15 8:18:58 PM by higherbrainpattern
I say things.
I don't even. ._.
What Disney chooses to name the movie is completely irrelevant. It might be titled an Episode by them, but that doesn't mean it fits what Lucas' view of the Episodes are. As far as I'm concerned, what matters is what the creator thinks, and not what some corporation intent on milking nostalgia for every drop its worth thinks.
But hey, that's me.
"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
It's not as if Lucas' view of what the Episodes were was concrete. Sometimes he was open to a new trilogy. Sometimes there was only going to be one movie. It's pretty clear by now that his vision of what Star Wars is is one of the least concrete things on the planet.
The Episode titling retcon was based on the idea that Lucas was going to hand off the franchise to different directors and writers. Just one more episode in the serial. What happened was deciding to make the movies less open ended and have a certain finality to both trilogies. Sure, plenty of other stories happen but the movies have a specific direction.
Would that it were so simple.
"As far as I'm concerned, what matters is what the creator thinks, and not what some corporation intent on milking nostalgia for every drop its worth thinks."
In the context of Lucas, they're the same thing.
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The MCU would beg to differ on people JUST milking nostalgia. Unless the timing's wrong, that's probably what decided Lucas on selling to Disney in the first place. Originally he actually was gearing up to do Episode 7 himself, but then he sold to Disney.
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Even if Lucas did have a concrete vision for either trilogy, Lucas himself is the worst possible source of info about that vision, because he's contradicted himself so much over the years.
I didn't write any of that.
You're acting like Lucas wasn't responsible for milking the franchise to death over the years.
And honestly, Lucas' vision, whatever it even was, doesn't matter anymore. He's retired from being involved in the Star Wars franchise. I mean, the concept of Death of the Author is a thing.
edited 4th Mar '15 9:44:52 AM by higherbrainpattern
Well if it's a Jedi movie then it's closer to Seven Samurai.
Since we're on Japanese classics, I'd also be up for a Zatoichi film about a blind Jedi going about his business dealing with criminals and general rogues. Presumably starred by our resident "blind renegade Jedi" Rahm Kota.
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