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JoaquinDawley Mr. Shoggoth from Ibis island Since: Nov, 2011
Mr. Shoggoth
#1: Nov 17th 2011 at 6:20:30 PM

Ahoy hoy.

So, I've been thinking: has anyone here read a story lately that they had to invoke Poe's Law on? I've been reading through some of the more infamous ones (like Naruto Vengeance Revalations) and I'm convinced that one can't be real, because there's several subtle shout-outs to other media.

Then there's this gem: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/7232788/1/bBATMAN_b_bVS_b_bTWILIGHT_b

So, how's it? Which stories you've read do you think are genuinely terrible as opposed to deliberately so?

"...oh darn."
alethiophile Shadowed Philosopher from Ëa Since: Nov, 2009
Shadowed Philosopher
#2: Nov 17th 2011 at 6:27:24 PM

At a certain level of terribleness the point becomes moot. My Immortal, for instance—I really couldn't care less if whoever-she-is is actually just a terrible writer, or is trolling the entire universe. It's equally hilarious either way.

Shinigan (Naruto fanfic)
annebeeche watching down on us from by the long tidal river Since: Nov, 2010
watching down on us
#3: Nov 17th 2011 at 6:41:12 PM

[up] This.

A trollfic that isn't funny is just terrible fanfiction.

edited 17th Nov '11 6:41:35 PM by annebeeche

Banned entirely for telling FE that he was being rude and not contributing to the discussion. I shall watch down from the goon heavens.
Night The future of warfare in UC. from Jaburo Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
The future of warfare in UC.
#4: Nov 17th 2011 at 6:46:17 PM

My comment about the failure of stealth parody should make this clear.

Nous restons ici.
JoaquinDawley Mr. Shoggoth from Ibis island Since: Nov, 2011
Mr. Shoggoth
#5: Nov 17th 2011 at 7:02:24 PM

I'm almost tempted to write a few of them, after reading Thirty H's and some genuinely funny crack fics. Then again, acting stupid is far harder than actually being stupid in the first place.

"...oh darn."
feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
#6: Nov 17th 2011 at 10:50:21 PM

There's a third choice, between intentionally bad and unintentionally bad—the author can be unintentionally bad at being intentionally bad. For instance, I've heard there was a writer who read a bunch of unintentionally bad fanfics in which Harry Potter spoke in American slang. He attempted to parody this with a story called "Harry Potter is a Wigger," but the story itself was quite badly written. (Then again, I've never been able to track down this story, so I can't prove it actually exists.)

That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#7: Nov 17th 2011 at 11:09:56 PM

Whether it exists or not, that's an excellent point - attempts at being bad can be genuinely bad.

tropetown Since: Mar, 2011
#8: Nov 18th 2011 at 12:53:01 AM

[up][up][up] I've had the exact same thought, too; I think that someone who can make a classic trollfic (in the vein of My Immortal, not Agony In Pink) should be recognized for their talents.

loganlocksley Occasionally Smart from On the ceiling Since: Oct, 2011
Occasionally Smart
#9: Nov 18th 2011 at 8:48:39 AM

Well the writer got one thing right at least:

The ploice couldn't catch him because he was batman

He's like fire and ice and rage. He's ancient and forever. He burns at the centre of time. Rory punched him in the face.
JoaquinDawley Mr. Shoggoth from Ibis island Since: Nov, 2011
Mr. Shoggoth
#10: Nov 18th 2011 at 2:31:41 PM

Don't forget using his leg muscles to run away. Normal people don't use them.

"...oh darn."
alethiophile Shadowed Philosopher from Ëa Since: Nov, 2009
Shadowed Philosopher
#11: Nov 18th 2011 at 2:33:50 PM

I have to say, that's rather hysterical.

Shinigan (Naruto fanfic)
JoaquinDawley Mr. Shoggoth from Ibis island Since: Nov, 2011
Mr. Shoggoth
#12: Nov 18th 2011 at 2:52:56 PM

This just reminded me of Wesker The Idiot. Back in the day, funniest thing ever. Nowadays, I know about Terry Pratchett, so it's not quite as funny.

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2309597/1/Wesker_the_Idiot

edited 18th Nov '11 2:53:42 PM by JoaquinDawley

"...oh darn."
JHM Apparition in the Woods from Niemandswasser Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Hounds of love are hunting
Apparition in the Woods
#13: Nov 18th 2011 at 2:53:22 PM

Even genuinely Horrible things have their merits, in terms of potential mockery. But the line is indeed thin and pale.

I'll hide your name inside a word and paint your eyes with false perception.
JoaquinDawley Mr. Shoggoth from Ibis island Since: Nov, 2011
Mr. Shoggoth
#14: Nov 18th 2011 at 3:07:48 PM

That Shinji's Nightmare Cataclysm... someone should link the MST'ing that got done of it, because it's seriously funny. Almost prevents reading the story being a complete waste of time.

And some words of wisdom: "paintings are dumb because theres no speesh bubbles"

"...oh darn."
Dragonzordasaurus Joining the Team.doc Since: Jan, 2011
Joining the Team.doc
#15: Nov 18th 2011 at 5:22:36 PM

I dunno. What would this count as?

Teens dress as Batman to catch pedophiles; cops not impressed
JoaquinDawley Mr. Shoggoth from Ibis island Since: Nov, 2011
Mr. Shoggoth
#16: Nov 18th 2011 at 7:31:25 PM

Funny. =P

"...oh darn."
PancakeMckennz Rainbows hurt. from Michigan Since: Jul, 2011
Rainbows hurt.
#17: Nov 18th 2011 at 9:36:58 PM

I think these days, we get a lot of copycat killers. I mean that in the sense that a few fanfics (which may or may not be legit in their awful nature/sheer WTF-ness) became legendary and people want that same notoriety. Fame < Infamy.

edited 18th Nov '11 9:37:35 PM by PancakeMckennz

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KadaSovek Dirty Communist from Taped to your backside Since: Jul, 2011
Dirty Communist
#18: Dec 16th 2011 at 12:50:01 PM

Egads! Why? http://www.fanfiction.net/s/7641809/1/The_Pony_Versus_England_Case

Well, shoot my blistered corpse and call me a collarbone.
ActuallyComma I am making sense! from a mysterious place Since: Feb, 2011
I am making sense!
#19: Dec 18th 2011 at 2:58:50 PM

I haven't read the whole thing but I can't see how My Immortal could possibly be real. Beyond simply being crappy it seems too on-the-nose somehow, like somebody went down a checklist of stuff that usually goes wrong and hit all of it. The Eye Of Argon is a more convincing kind of suck, where it manages to get some stuff slightly right but then makes mistakes that never would have occurred to a normal person (this is the challenge of doing stupid on purpose).

Except [condescending response follows]. Because [sarcasm here]. You do understand [snark], right? POTHOLE TO SARCASM MODE
Night The future of warfare in UC. from Jaburo Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
The future of warfare in UC.
#20: Dec 20th 2011 at 7:12:07 AM

Poe's Law really expresses why trollfics seem counterproductive to me.

Nous restons ici.
AcesoldierZero Acesoldier Zero from Vicenza, Italy Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I wanna know about these strangers like me
#21: Dec 20th 2011 at 7:54:49 AM

I think trollfics are exceedingly hard to write well. It's not just about terrible spelling, 30-Sue Pileup, and a Crack Fic plot, which is what all the imitators seem to take away from My Immortal and Half Life Full Life Consequences.

I myself personally find the work of Sue Mary(who legitimately is a troll) to be much more on the So Bad Its Horrible side then So Bad, It's Good.

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