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feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
#201: Apr 5th 2012 at 12:18:48 PM

Can I dump an article? I was looking for an article on how to write characters with distinct speaking patterns, and I found this.

That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
JHM Apparition in the Woods from Niemandswasser Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Hounds of love are hunting
CrystalGlacia from at least we're not detroit Since: May, 2009
#203: Apr 5th 2012 at 2:58:03 PM

I didn't even have to see the author; the evasive 'About the author' footnote was all I needed.

"Jack, you have debauched my sloth."
chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#204: Apr 5th 2012 at 2:59:37 PM

Blame B. Mac. He was the one who wrote all the Interpol junk. tongue

And it's an expected feature in guest posts.

Now, it seems like Thursday always have the fewest posts:

Thursday:

edited 5th Apr '12 3:14:47 PM by chihuahua0

QQQQQ from Canada Since: Jul, 2011
#205: Apr 8th 2012 at 10:13:02 PM

Today:

  • The Future of Storytelling has Arrived! - a piece regarding how storytelling works in lieu of balancing audience pleasing vs authorial intent, considering Mass Effect 3's ending and Ninja Turtle's abridgement.

nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#206: Apr 8th 2012 at 10:39:01 PM

I have to say that as someone who has a deep interest in the subject, and largely agrees with the conclusions reached, I found that article rather disappointing. It seemed like the author was more interested in putting up pretty pictures and quotes then in adding any real insights of their own.

feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
#207: Apr 9th 2012 at 12:30:38 AM

I still don't understand how changing stories to please a mass audience is any different from changing them to please focus groups. (Mind you, I like focus groups, even if they're sometimes badly misused, so that's not an argument against it.)

edited 9th Apr '12 12:31:43 AM by feotakahari

That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
JHM Apparition in the Woods from Niemandswasser Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Hounds of love are hunting
Apparition in the Woods
#208: Apr 9th 2012 at 1:10:42 AM

There's something unsettling to me about the idea of writing to the will of one's audience rather than to one's own vision. I am the kind of person who like to see an author break new ground and try new things when they write, whether I like the results or not.

Of course, going too far in the opposite direction is just as cringe-worthy; both are untrue to oneself and ultimately unfair to the audience.

I'll hide your name inside a word and paint your eyes with false perception.
feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
#209: Apr 9th 2012 at 12:21:19 PM

^ I don't think the artist ultimately matters, just the art. (See: AMVs for which the "creator" made neither the clips nor the music, but which are still undeniably art.) Audiences can often point out when an artist did something stupid, and they can make art better for it.

edited 9th Apr '12 12:21:45 PM by feotakahari

That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
JHM Apparition in the Woods from Niemandswasser Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Hounds of love are hunting
Apparition in the Woods
#211: Apr 9th 2012 at 8:05:19 PM

[up][up] That wasn't what I was talking about. For one, there is a difference between working off of constructive criticism regardless of the source and pandering. Also, collage works, readymades and so forth are a different matter entirely: The original work is the medium of the new one, and hence the intent of the original work is not crucial to the final product.

I'll hide your name inside a word and paint your eyes with false perception.
feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
#212: Apr 9th 2012 at 8:07:34 PM

^^ Eagan's article is pretty much useless without solid examples of what he considers to be too strange.

That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
JHM Apparition in the Woods from Niemandswasser Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Hounds of love are hunting
Apparition in the Woods
#213: Apr 9th 2012 at 8:17:47 PM

[up] There's also the problem of the fact that he seems to be equating "extremely strange" with "inherently unbelievable." Those are two entirely different things, and though often they can go hand in hand, on an emotional and intellectual level a truly fantastical or bizarre story like Stephan Chapman's "The Revenge of the Calico Cat" can be just as believable as something much more nominally realistic. Furthermore, a "realistic" tale, if not properly written, can be even more unbelievable than something as overtly outrageous as Chapman's.

I'll hide your name inside a word and paint your eyes with false perception.
chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#214: Apr 10th 2012 at 2:12:13 PM

Tuesday:

feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
#215: Apr 10th 2012 at 6:17:49 PM

^ @Offensiveness: I remember a story I wrote in which one of the characters was agender, although the term itself was never used. Another Troper wrote a lengthy criticism of what he saw as my poorly-written portrayal of the "transgender" character. I didn't explain myself at length, but I did admit that I should have used that character as the narrator to avoid some confusion over aspects of his/her personality and issues.

That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#216: Apr 11th 2012 at 2:46:14 PM

[up] Could you give me some details on the agendered character and the criticism?

By the way, I'll start bolding articles that I believe stand out among the lists.

Wednesday:

feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
#217: Apr 11th 2012 at 3:12:56 PM

^ Well, one relevant quote (not from the troper, but something someone else said about it, which he used to support his argument):

The concept of "oh, being bi and genderqueer means I can be anything to anyone because I'm so desperate for love" is pretty queerphobic on a lot of levels, but if it were specific characterization for a single character (instead of broad ideas about sexuality), I could accept it from a decent writer. This dude is not a decent writer, and I'm already lost.

(That doesn't bear much relation to what I meant to do with the character, but if I screwed up in conveying what I meant, there's no point in trying to explain it afterwards.)

P.S. He wasn't rude, mind you. He clearly thought me ignorant, but he took it upon himself to educate me rather than insult me.

edited 11th Apr '12 3:14:40 PM by feotakahari

That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#218: Apr 12th 2012 at 2:46:11 PM

Thursday:

...Unfortunately, no blog posts on writing craft and such stood out today.

Perhaps I should start writing the "Post of the Week" section.

nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#220: Apr 12th 2012 at 3:14:41 PM

It's not as bad as you think. It's just that Thursdays are always the days with the fewest posts on craft and such, and none of the posts I usually put in the round-up hooked and sticked.

Most of them are from the A-Z Blogging Challenge, interviews, giveaways, writing reviews meant for regular readers, non-writing related posts, etc.

I might broaden my range one day, but since most of the stuff I mentioned above are YA...

nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
JHM Apparition in the Woods from Niemandswasser Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Hounds of love are hunting
Apparition in the Woods
#223: Apr 16th 2012 at 5:55:09 AM

[up] Thank you for taking my suggestion into consideration. I appreciate that.

I'll hide your name inside a word and paint your eyes with false perception.
chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#224: Apr 16th 2012 at 2:19:35 PM

Monday:

edited 16th Apr '12 2:20:06 PM by chihuahua0

chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#225: Apr 17th 2012 at 2:05:46 PM

Tuesday:

edited 17th Apr '12 2:05:57 PM by chihuahua0


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