Dueling Musicians

Just launched the Dueling Musicians page. Please feel free to edit factual errors (I tried to make sure I got 90 percent of my information right), add the trope to other pages, etc.

What is this?

I suppose you've heard of the Dueling Movies, Dueling Games, and Dueling Products page, right? Well, this is another trivia list page focused on the competitions between musicians.

We can see that it's a trivia page... But it's an undefined trivia page. Please define your trope, good sir, or someone's going to delete it.

Your grammar, research, and formatting are also REALLY off... Seriously, did you even take the time to READ this before you posted this? I don't think you understand that this is NOT how music competitions work.

Did this go through YKTTW? Tropes are supposed to.

Yes, about a little over two weeks ago to be exact.

I personally think this page needs to be reworked... a lot. It seems like tonagamu simply put down his preferred bands as the winners instead of the bands/artists that really did win (i.e., Nickelback beating Creed just simply because Creed's comeback album flopped and Nickelback are still together, yet Creed sold far more back in their prime and Nickelback have a lot of hatred against them). There's also some places where not enough time has elapsed since the battle began to say that anyone won (i.e. Rebecca Black and Jenna Rose, which literally just happened this year). Then there's the bands that really shouldn't be in competition with each other, (i.e. Morbid Angel and Death are completely different styles of death metal).

It's not an awful article but it needs work and repairing. Also, it needs to spread to other pages if you guys really want to keep it. It's generally a pretty good idea, but like I said, needs a lot of work.

I will admit that I initially got that impression as well. I changed it a while back, but whoever originally added Oasis and blur was suggesting that Oasis's record sales alone should secure them victory while blur had little to no influence on subsequent bands.

The other pages refer to movies, games, etc that are released around the same time, which doesn't even really apply to musicians. It should be dueling albums if anything.

I wouldnt go as far as to say it doesn't apply to them, as the competition between bands can span several albums.

Obviously not all the choices he made were wrong, I just think he was trying to hard to add examples.

But what I mean is, we have Dueling Movies, not Dueling Directors. Same principle. Those tropes are about similar releases in short periods of time, not about artistic rivalries (which, somehow, we don't seem to have a page on — now that's worth YKTTW-ing) or Fandom Rivalries (which we do).

edited 12th Dec '11 7:11:49 PM by Nyktos

The title gave me the impression that this was about in-universe musical battles (e.g. the Devil challenging Johnny to a violin playing contest in "The Devil Went Down To Georgia").

In the John Mayer/Jason Mraz/Jack Johnson battle, I'd say Mraz won. Mayer's more notable for who he's dating than his music (can anyone name one of Mayer's songs?) while Mraz has managed to have more than one album do well and broke out of being "that guy who sang "The Remedy". Mayer's never broke out of "that guy who briefly dated Jennifer Aniston".

I disagree, and that's part of why this page is a stupid idea: the "winner" is usually somewhat subjective. To make a clear "victory", the author needed to pluck bands nobody ever gave a shit about from the bowels of music history.

"Waiting on the World to Change"

See, I don't even listen to this shit and I know one.

Isn't John Mayer the guy who did "Hey There Delilah"? I remember it being a pretty popular song among folks in my school, certainly much more than "I'm Yours".

That was Plain White T's.

I thought that was a Brian McKnight song.

Oh, so it was. I stand corrected.

'Fraid not.

...who is Brian McKnight?

I think the page shouldn't have a winner. It's not like with products, games, shows, etc. where there's usually a clear one whose making more money and is more popular. Music is too subjective for that.

He's an R&B singer who sang songs such as "Back To One". He's also an actor and film composer.