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MrW from some place Since: Sep, 2010
#1: Oct 27th 2011 at 6:06:33 PM

All I can say is... damn.

With the 3DS trying to gain its wings and with the Wii on its last legs, this actually isn't surprising. However, then you get into the fact that almost the exact same thing happened to Sega(and we all know how that went), you know they're in a dire situation right now.

edited 27th Oct '11 6:10:34 PM by MrW

tvsgood from Steins Gate Since: Jan, 2010
#2: Oct 27th 2011 at 6:08:47 PM

Well, the sales of the 3DS in its first few months are higher than they were for the DS back in 2004.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFmGNqji4u0
Bookyangel2438 from New York City Since: Jul, 2011
#3: Oct 27th 2011 at 6:09:28 PM

But why did it go down? sadsad

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Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
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#4: Oct 27th 2011 at 6:11:38 PM

[up][up][up] Ouch! =( Hopefully it's going to get better in the following months what with Mario Kart 7, Super Mario 3D Land, Skyward Sword, and other games coming out the next month!

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Hydronix I'm an Irene! from TV Tropes Since: Apr, 2010
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#5: Oct 27th 2011 at 6:18:14 PM

I'm... not surprised. A very bad 3DS launch kind of hurt them.

If they were patient, they would've gotten a lot better stuff. I'll be honest: The gimmicks don't have a very long lasting value. People are more interested in quality, and new ideas. The remakes don't always cut it when people have the originals via the VC. So they're not nearly as often bought. And even then, what else do they have?

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MrW from some place Since: Sep, 2010
#6: Oct 27th 2011 at 6:19:06 PM

[up][up]I hope so.

The Wii U is a bit of an Elephant in the Room, however. Nintendo stated that they want the launch line-up to be mostly comprised of third-party games. They did the same thing with the 3DS. Unfortunately, the games were (mostly) crap.

Then again, the Wii U has the benefit of having big-name HD games attached to it(Batman Arkham City, Ninja Gaiden 3, Battlefield 3), and thus can attract the 360PS3 crowd, but those are ports. We need substantial exclusives, more or less.

edited 27th Oct '11 6:20:30 PM by MrW

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#7: Oct 27th 2011 at 6:19:53 PM

[up][up] It's not so much what they currently have but what they're going to get. A lot of big games are going to start coming out within the next few months. Next year also promises to have numerous games that are worth getting.

[up] I think ports are actually a better idea at this point. It gives developers more time to experiment with the system. That way they can figure out how to make good games for the system rather than junk like the Wii got.

edited 27th Oct '11 6:21:03 PM by Kostya

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Bookyangel2438 from New York City Since: Jul, 2011
#9: Oct 27th 2011 at 6:22:25 PM

[up]sadsad

I still don't know why it happened...

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Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
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#10: Oct 27th 2011 at 6:24:12 PM

[up] Cheer up Booky! *hugs*

In any case, I have faith that Nintendo will get out of this crisis as well.

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MrW from some place Since: Sep, 2010
#11: Oct 27th 2011 at 6:25:23 PM

@Kostya: Decent point. It also seems to be winning over developers too, so naturally they can experiment.

@Folt: Point too. Nintendo has climbed over serious hurdles, but this seems to be an even bigger hurdle than usual.

@LOEDITO: We are trying to have a peaceful conversation on this matter, we do not need Trolls.

edited 27th Oct '11 6:28:22 PM by MrW

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#12: Oct 27th 2011 at 6:26:59 PM

[up][up][up][up]Probably due to Hype Backlash, since all we've heard from the DS for the last several years is "IT PRINTS MONEY!!". I guess even the most meteoric rise can't last forever,

edited 27th Oct '11 6:27:29 PM by Alucard

Marioguy128 Geomancer from various galaxies Since: Jan, 2010
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#13: Oct 27th 2011 at 6:29:14 PM

[up]He hates Nintendo. That's why.

... Damn. I see why this happened. Hopefully they can recover.

edited 27th Oct '11 6:30:10 PM by Marioguy128

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MrW from some place Since: Sep, 2010
#14: Oct 27th 2011 at 6:31:31 PM

[up]More or less, someone with a history of hating Nintendo tends to add nothing to... a conversation about Nintendo.

edited 27th Oct '11 6:32:36 PM by MrW

Hydronix I'm an Irene! from TV Tropes Since: Apr, 2010
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#15: Oct 27th 2011 at 6:33:33 PM

What Mr W said.

@Kostya: Yes, but I'm not surprised because they didn't have much at the time. That's all. It looks like sales may get better due to new games coming out. I just prefer less remakes. Not bad, or anything, but really, we want new ideas.

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Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
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#16: Oct 27th 2011 at 6:34:02 PM

[up][up][up],[up][up],[up] They can certainly recover, I'm sure of it! After all, Legend Of Zelda and Mario are Cash Cow Franchises after all and it's Christmas season soon no less.

edited 27th Oct '11 6:34:44 PM by Folt

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#17: Oct 27th 2011 at 6:34:17 PM

Well, of course it's their worst year in ages. This is an "in-between" year. They're almost done with the Wii, and the 3DS hasn't gotten out of its launch stage yet (bear in mind, it's currently doing better than the DS was at this point). Things will pick up.

edited 27th Oct '11 6:34:32 PM by INUH

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#18: Oct 27th 2011 at 6:35:44 PM

[up]The problem is that sales standards have dramatically increased. Comparing sales figures from 2004 and now isn't really fair.

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MrW from some place Since: Sep, 2010
#19: Oct 27th 2011 at 6:37:31 PM

Still, there are sorts that are running out onto forums saying "Nintendo is DEEEEEAAAAD!!!!!11one!" This includes Michael Pachter.

While this is a hefty loss, is it enough for people to completely lose their shit?

edited 27th Oct '11 6:40:26 PM by MrW

Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
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#20: Oct 27th 2011 at 6:40:22 PM

[up][up] True. The 3DS HAS done much better after they cut the price though, and as said above, new AAA games will be out soon. There's no reason to believe that they may not recover just yet.

[up] I don't think so. Most tend to be Trolls anyways.

edited 27th Oct '11 6:42:19 PM by Folt

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#21: Oct 27th 2011 at 6:42:42 PM

Nintendo will most likely recover, the 3ds has sold around 6 million units at the time of writing and a good amount of content is coming out in November. but don't take this as a sign of Nintendo kicking the bucket. The company has Mario and Pokemon, they've made millions off merchandising alone for pokemon. So yeah DON'T PANIC!

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#22: Oct 27th 2011 at 6:48:52 PM

[up] Let's just face it! When a new main Mario or Pokémon Game (or a spinoff, doesn't matter which) comes out, they'll be back to printing money!

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ShirowShirow Down with the Privileged🪓 from Land of maple syrup Since: Nov, 2009
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#23: Oct 27th 2011 at 6:49:38 PM

I blame this squarely on the 3DS's lack of a second analog stick. Yes, I am that single minded.

I do hope Nintendo makes a comeback though. They're the only ones that support Split Screen anymore.

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MrW from some place Since: Sep, 2010
#24: Oct 27th 2011 at 6:50:07 PM

Frankly, Game Freak has plans to make some, ...Or So I Heard.

Glowsquid gets mad about videogames from Alien Town Since: Jul, 2009
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#25: Oct 27th 2011 at 6:50:46 PM

......Why am I so happy???

Because you're a very silly fanboi.

The problem is that sales standards have dramatically increased

well actually, the problem is that the 3DS is sold at loss since the price cut.

that being said, let's see how the 3DS does before writing off Nitnendo. doom and gloom predictions are dumb.


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