Very low quality image: Group Hug

I reiterate, though, that the characters in the WTP one don't seem to be hugging each other as a group in that frame, while the MLP one and the Avatar one (especially the latter) make it clearer.

Perhaps we could look for further alternatives? IIRC there's one toward the end of Aladdin, not sure if it will make a good page image...

edited 31st Oct '11 7:04:03 AM by HiddenFacedMatt

"The Daily Show has to be right 100% of the time; FOX News only has to be right once." - Jon Stewart

I searched for "Aladdin hug" on google images and this is what came up, I don't think it is what you were searching for, but still...

I like the second more because they seem happier.

"I like girls, but now, it's about justice."

Both pics are added to the crowner.

Matt how are my opinions Fan Myopia when I said ALL images are good?

The only reason I prefer the Pooh one, is becuase I find it adorable! I even stated I found it cute...I stated that yes I have a preference for it.

However the difference between me and others here, is I don't try to create some BS argument against the other group hug images.

That ISN'T fan myopia at work here. Saying "X image is better and Z image isn't because (insert silly reason here)" isn't what I was doing. However it is what other biased people are doing.

I stated ALL were good images and fit the trope.

I never said WTP was the best image, I just said I liked it the best.

I never said MLP or ATLA weren't good or worse than WTP...only that I find myself gravitating towards WTP simply because I find it cute.

I acknowledged that MLP and ATLA were both good images and worthy to be the page image.

Not Fan Myopia...unlike you.

edited 31st Oct '11 10:10:58 AM by marheavenangel89

This is Mimi-don't let her cuteness fool you-she's got spunk.

Just to be pedantic, the Genie pic isn't really a group hug because Genie is the only one doing the hugging. A Group Hug his when all the characters are hugging each other. The Genie picture is more of a Bear Hug or something along those lines.

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Crap, you're right, I didn't look close enough. I'll strike those.

Agreed.

And again with Winnie the Pooh...it's very obviously a group hug.

Tigger has his arms around Pooh and Pigglet.

Both Pooh and Pigglet are hugging Eyeore....so how is that NOT a group hug? What would you call that then?

The fact that people try to make cases against WTP on whether or not it's an actual group hug, or saying that it's just artwork instead of a the show itself as a strike against it, is BEYOND silly!

You don't hear me making ludicrous arguments against ATLA or MLP! It's obvious those are group hugs too, and it shouldn't matter if it came from the show or not, considering we also have fanworks and fancomics as images on T Vtropes...or are we actually saying that only images from T Vshows should be put up now?

It doesn't matter where the work comes from as long as it fits the trope. And all three images FIT the trope, no matter what BS people come up with. If you have something against the art style, fine, that's a personal bias. If you have something against the show itself, fine, another personal bias. If you just love something the most because you like how it looks, AGAIN fine! So long as you admit that is what your reason is. And before anyone starts, I did admit that my main reason for liking Pooh is just that I find it the cutest...end of story, I have nothing wrong with the others and wouldn't mind at all if the other two won, because I think the images are just as good and show the trope.

To pretend otherwise is ludicrous and silly. MLP and Avatar are good images, they fit the trope, just like WTP, and I'm not going to pretend otherwise.

It shouldn't matter where the work came from, and if you have a preference, that's great! Love what you want to love, but claiming other works that are just equally as good that aren't for beyond silly reasons, is just ridiculous. I figured we were smarter than that here on TV Tropes.

All images are good, and worthy and all equally deserve the image spot, PERIOD, get over it people.

edited 31st Oct '11 10:26:48 AM by marheavenangel89

This is Mimi-don't let her cuteness fool you-she's got spunk.

... you say this as if it is impossible for people's stated reasons against the WTP pic to be their real ones. How would you know?

Remember, I'm not the only one criticizing using the WTP pic here, others have backed me up on this. You dismiss these criticisms as BS, but your own counterarguments don't strike me as very convincing.

And just because you consider all pics fitting for the page, doesn't mean fan myopia isn't involved here; how do you know your preference for the WTP pic isn't biasing you against the criticisms of using it?

edited 31st Oct '11 1:18:00 PM by HiddenFacedMatt

"The Daily Show has to be right 100% of the time; FOX News only has to be right once." - Jon Stewart

Because I stated the only reason I liked it the most simply because I find it adorable...that's it, and yes I have made counterarguments every time for each silly reason of the WTP image every time it's come up.

Each image is adorable and endearing in its own way.

I found them all giving me smiles on my face. But I find WTP just the most adorable-that's it.

I see nothing wrong with ANY image. They all fit the trope.

And every counterargument against it is beyond silly.

Go through the thread and read, I have stated my reasons why those arguments don't work.

And just because people don't back you up doesn't mean it's automatically right. It just means some people agree with you, as some people agree with me.

This is Mimi-don't let her cuteness fool you-she's got spunk.

Can we just stop fighting about it? All the pics are illustrative enough for consideration, and whatever wins the crowner will get put up. There's no reason to argue over it because it doesn't seem to be having much of an effect on the crowner anyway.

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The WTP pic is cute, but Tigger is the only one with both arms around anyone and even he doesn't look like he's hugging them. It's adorable as all get out, but it doesn't look like the trope. I'd really rather an actual hug rather than just a cute pose for a group shot.

It is by far the cutest image of the bunch. It's just also the only suggested image without any hugging.

edited 31st Oct '11 2:38:40 PM by shimaspawn

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick

Nevermind that both Pooh and Pigglet are hugging Eyeore.

This is Mimi-don't let her cuteness fool you-she's got spunk.

Ditto. Eeyore is the only one who isn't actually doing any hugging, and I don't think that disqualifies the picture.

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Neither Pooh nor Piglet have their arms around anyone. Piglet's arms are just dangling in front of him and Pooh's are hard to see. The one you can see looks a bit like it's trying to strangle Eyore but it looks more awkward posing than huglike.

edited 31st Oct '11 3:26:46 PM by shimaspawn

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick

I couldn't have put it better myself.

Here's the thing; if all of them are good, why not just go with one that is generally agreed to look like hugging, instead of one for which various users have called this into question?

edited 31st Oct '11 5:31:34 PM by HiddenFacedMatt

"The Daily Show has to be right 100% of the time; FOX News only has to be right once." - Jon Stewart

Indeed; we need the one that best demonstrates the trope, Fan Myopia be damned.

And here is a crazy idea, but why not go with the one that, you know, wins the voting?

I really don't know how someone can say that they are not hugging, but I'm even more puzzled by the fact that someone thinks that Pooh is trying to strangle Eeyore.

And if the criticism against the Pooh image is that their arms can't be seen hugging the others, than show me an arm in the Avatar pic that doesn't belong to the guy/girl with the thing on his/her hair(or to the monkey). And I think that that is a great image. All three of them are great images.

Like I said, the only reason I prefer the Pooh pic is becuase the expressions on their faces are really sweet, more so than the other two.

Also, I don't think there is sockpuppeting here, the thing is that there are always lurkers that prefer not to post but they vote anyway.

This so much

This is Mimi-don't let her cuteness fool you-she's got spunk.

Why is this such an issue?

There are three excellent images. So we vote, and the one that wins goes on the page.

The one that's winning is the only one I downvoted, but I'd be quite happy to see it on the page. All I had against it was that I kinda dislike the art style a bit in comparison with the others.

Infinite Tree: an experimental story

I'm just throwing this◊ out for comments.

That wouldn't be a problem if their faces were close together, like they are in the MLP or Avatar ones. As it is, their faces are too far apart to look like a hug.

Add it to the crowner.

edited 31st Oct '11 8:37:27 PM by HiddenFacedMatt

"The Daily Show has to be right 100% of the time; FOX News only has to be right once." - Jon Stewart

Good pic, but the first two panels aren't really needed.

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Should we include a different version with the first two panels included so as to have one more option in the crowner?

"The Daily Show has to be right 100% of the time; FOX News only has to be right once." - Jon Stewart

You can add it if you like, but I doubt it'll get support—the extra panels add basically nothing.

Rhymes with "Protracted."

faces being close is not a requirement of the trope

This is Mimi-don't let her cuteness fool you-she's got spunk.