Great quotable phrase, I saved it.
Far too many people beleve that any belief in the value of being good is primitive "idealism" or even "naivity", but immorality in general is realistic and mature.
Guess what! We have a word for the opposite of good, and it is "evil". People like this are, in effect, openly supporting evil as better than good.
Of course, that assertion only applies for moral realists/moral objectivists.
All the same, that's one shitty girlfriend. Future Dancing Bear material.
edited 26th Oct '11 2:56:33 PM by MRDA1981
Enjoy the Inferno...There is a word for this girl, and isn't a nice one.
edited 26th Oct '11 3:01:52 PM by joeyjojo
hashtagsarestupidNo, it doesn't. If you support something evil, and you don't believe that evil exist, you are still evil. Refusing to believe in it won't get you a free pass.
Edit: By the way, I'm wondering, would you still have brought that up if instead of evil, I would have said "bad" or "mean" or "shitty", etc?
edited 26th Oct '11 3:08:31 PM by Ever9
So, OP has a sister who's in college. She has friends OP doesn't like. She goes to parties, comes home late and has sex, because she's in college. And OP does not like.
Yeah, I'm not really seeing the Philosophical Debate on Morality here.
Frankly, what friends of OP's sister are up to in their personal lives is none of OP's business. OP needs to have a chat with his/her sister on being good room-mates, because getting woken up and/with phone calls at all hours should not become a regular occurrence.
OP Just sent her a informational pamphlet on cervical cancer and be done with it.
edited 26th Oct '11 3:31:16 PM by joeyjojo
hashtagsarestupidI think your friend was a prude: So that girl was screwing a dude different from her boyfriend. What's the big deal?
Aside from the calling over and over again thing, that was rude. That's why houses with roommates shouldn't have a phone line . Have your promiscuous roommate either shut down the phone or take it with her when she's going to be away, and y'all won't be bothered again.
edited 26th Oct '11 3:38:23 PM by SavageHeathen
You exist because we allow it and you will end because we demand it.If we have to explain what the big deal is, Savage, you probably have no respect for the people you date and won't comprehend or won't care why it's a gigantic dick move.
I am now known as Flyboy.Does your friend have the phone number of the boyfriend? He deserves to know what's going on, but anything else should be decided by him.
edited 26th Oct '11 3:42:43 PM by feotakahari
That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful@Savage: ah man you crack me up some time
hashtagsarestupid"If you support something evil, and you don't believe that evil exist, you are still evil."
In your mind, maybe...
Enjoy the Inferno...^^^ NO!. It is not this guy's place to tell the boyfriend.
Frankly, It sounds to me like it's something that he really needs to butt out of, aside from asking his sister to be more considerate about the phone calls.
edited 26th Oct '11 3:48:41 PM by Madrugada
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.Moral relativism isn't relevant here.
Basically, in some, the sister is vaguely a bitch, and the woman who is cheating is a ridiculous jackass, and you should advice this person to tell the boyfriend so he doesn't have to deal with their bullshit.
Why the hell not? Oh, yes, letting him find out that he's never even been relevant to her is so much better than at least giving him the chance to stick it to her and end it on his own terms. Nonsense, I say.
edited 26th Oct '11 3:48:56 PM by USAF713
I am now known as Flyboy.@Maddie: If I were the boyfriend, I would want to know, even if I had to learn it in the most painful way possible.
That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something AwfulDecent folks don't meddle in other people's business.
edited 26th Oct '11 3:54:20 PM by SavageHeathen
You exist because we allow it and you will end because we demand it.LOL! Clearly moral relativism does have a place here!
Enjoy the Inferno...@Savage: The Golden Rule is as much "for" as "to." Like I said, if I were being cheated on, I'd be grateful to anyone who told me. (And if I were cheating, and I was told upon, I'd accept it as the cost of my actions.)
edited 26th Oct '11 3:58:17 PM by feotakahari
That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful'Principles are for people who don't have orgasms.'
At any rate, you (or anyone else, for that matter) don't want people exposing your dirty little secrets to people. It's only fair that you see no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil when it comes to other people's vices and indiscretions.
edited 26th Oct '11 3:59:33 PM by SavageHeathen
You exist because we allow it and you will end because we demand it.The topic is adultery. If you don't think adultery is bad, then explain why. The meta-argument isn't relevant.
Good for you. That just makes you an ass. Now go enjoy not having any respect for significant others.
edited 26th Oct '11 3:59:25 PM by USAF713
I am now known as Flyboy.I don't like adultery and I don't like busybodies.
As mitigation, though, I hope these birds' boyfriends are out getting their cocks sucked, instead of pining for those flakes.
edited 26th Oct '11 4:02:08 PM by MRDA1981
Enjoy the Inferno...I think whether adultery is good or bad matters less than whether the boyfriend thinks adultery is good or bad. I'm generally against concealing information from people. (Granted, there are circumstances where I'm against telling someone that they're being lied to, but I don't think any of them apply here—the boyfriend has no power over the girlfriend, and he's unlikely to do anything to hurt her.)
{Don't make it personal —Madrugada}
edited 27th Oct '11 9:27:36 AM by Madrugada
That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something AwfulI have no problem with casual sex outside of the relationship, whether the partner is aware and acquiescent or not. Commitment shouldn't be threatened by sexual attraction.
And better than thy stroke; why swellest thou then?
Not the polyamoury kind. The not-agreed-on kind. It pisses me off. Immensely. I Have This Friend, here's his story about it.
One day they come back from a party. Waking me up at six a.m. My sister, that girl, and our neighbor, who is also friends with both of them. I start to study. They leave. At nine, sis and I have breakfast. Her phone rings, over and over again. It's that girl's boyfriend. After the tenth time (literally) she picks it up, telling him she expects her to be at her home, sleeping. At twelve, I go to my neighbor, asking if he can lend me some tinfoil paper. I find her. In his clothes. Face not even washed. Later, it was confirmed. They just had sex, a couple of walls away from my room.
I was so pissed off, I decided I'd just had enough. That somehow made it personal. I asked my sister to do away with these assholes. We ended up agreeing that instead, if they offended my sensibilities this much, she'd just keep them away from my eyes and ears as much as possible. See no evil, hear no evil, say no evil. Was I right to get this pissed off? Should have been more lenient? More firm?
My sister had the general attitude of "you're so naive, that's nothing, I have lots of girl friends and they keep telling me what they do and if you knew as much as I do you wouldn't be nearly as outraged". I thought that was condescending, stupid, and completely missing the point: they're bad coompany because they make this awful stuff feel normal. It's one thing to be jaded and worldly, and another to have gone numb in the "moral-sensitivity" organ! What that girl did was worse than an infringement of good customs, it was betrayal of trust, plain and simple, and not just an accident or a mistake, but a deliberate habit.
Have I mentioned I was very angry?
So, what do you guys think? What should this guy do/have done?
EDIT: THREADHOPPERS: THAT TOPIC IS SOLVED. WE ARE NOW DISCUSSING THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF ADULTERY IN GENERAL. Apparently some tropers fid it morally outrageous that some would leave people they say they care for just because they went and had sex with other people. Others are amazed people can be horny enough that they'd compromise a romantic relationship for one-off sex.
edited 29th Oct '11 1:18:43 AM by PacificState
A case of true love has the same redeeming power as a case of genuine curiosity: they are the same.