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How is it offensive? Yeah, it says the soda's not for women, but the very idea that a soda would be denied to one gender is so silly that there's no way it's meant seriously.
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"Women only like to shop and are physically weak."
'Women abhor violence."
"Women dislike sports."
"There are things only for men, and you can’t have them."
And on the man side.
"If you like romantic comedies, you're not a real man."
"If you drink diet Sodas (except for our MANLY soda) you're a woman* ."
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And, again, all so silly that there's no way anyone involved in making the ad meant them seriously.
"It takes an idiot to do cool things, that's why it's cool" - Haruhara Haruko
However, some ill-informed people might interpret the campaign AS serious, intention of parody or not. Poe's Law in is full effect here.
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Thus enabling and contributing to the problem of sexism.
If you think making commercial jokes based on women's supposed hatred of action films is okay, then you might as well think that making commercial jokes based on the jews' supposed hatred of spending money is okay, or that making commercial jokes based on the black's supposed love for watermelon okay.
edited 23rd Oct '11 6:34:08 PM by annebeeche
Banned entirely for telling FE that he was being rude and not contributing to the discussion. I shall watch down from the goon heavens.
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But those people would have to already be huge sexists anyway, so it's not like any damage is done.
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Then the people who write these kinds of commercials, and the people who tolerate them, are buying a six-pack for an alcoholic. They are giving attention to an attention whore.
Long story short, they are enabling sexists to be sexists.
edited 23rd Oct '11 6:37:03 PM by annebeeche
Banned entirely for telling FE that he was being rude and not contributing to the discussion. I shall watch down from the goon heavens.
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And you cant just publish hate material because "no one's sexist/racist enough to believe it anyway."
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I wouldn't exactly call these ads "hate material". Bad taste? Sure. Offensive? I guess. But outright malicious, hate material? I'm not buying it.
Anyway, I'm taking off for the night; gotta be up at 0500 tomorrow.
edited 23rd Oct '11 6:41:08 PM by MarkVonLewis
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I suppose if you were trying to convert people away from sexism, that would be an issue. I've always preferred the strategy of educating children to not be sexist and letting the old sexists die out over time.
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I'm not tolerating them, so much as they're so blatantly misstepped that they'll fail as advertisements so there's no point in actually getting angry. Just shaking your head and eating popcorn while the campaign fails miserably.
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EH, bad examples except for the HORRIBLY crazy Twix commercial.
edited 23rd Oct '11 7:08:44 PM by JusticeMan
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That Hawaiian one was just weird rather than sexist. All-in-all a rather poor video; you got a better video?
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I'm not really feeling any kind of strong dislike. I guess it's because the ads come across not as intentionally malicious but just misplaced and stupid.
I can't really fault them for stupidity, but I feel fine with pointing and laughing. If and when they get called on it, they decide to try and defend it as not sexist or something idiotic like that, then yeah, it'll be bad, but right now it's just dumb.
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I agree with everything Ann Beeche has been saying. I have never believed that tacking "No offense" or "haha, jokes" onto an offensive statement makes it automatically less offensive.
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Don't think that first Carl Jr ad was sexist. :/
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It's like saying "With all due respect, you're a fucking mega-twat." Beginning something with "with all due respect" doesn't take away from the sting of someone calling you a fucking mega-twat
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Although this campaign isn't even "ironic" or a satire. It's just presenting a ludicrous sexist commercial while trying to slide b on Crosses the Line Twice. Newsflash! YOU CANT DO THAT WITHOUT ACTUALLY, 'NOT BEING SEXIST! Did everyone sign the petition I linked?
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So under what circumstances is it appropriate to parody bigoted people?
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The Boondocks is a good example.
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I agree with the video's sentiment. But the Ads she used for examples simply aren't that offensive, even in an ironic way. She just comes across as an over sensitive Soapbox Sadie.
Lol it reminds me of the novelty Monopoly scene in The Simpsons.
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edited 24th Oct '11 12:45:07 AM by joeyjojo
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It's just silly to quit drinking a certain product only because of a stupid and offensive ad... 
KFC could be making an ad about a bunch of black guys who work as slaves only to get some chicken and I wouldn't care... what I'm trying to say is that it's only one stupid ad that tries to appeal to a certain part of the audience... and I'm not supporting sexism only because I keep drinking Dr Pepper...
Well, if sales of a product drop markedly after an offensive ad campaign, then the company will probably know not to try it again. It's a way of expressing your disapproval and punishing a company for unethical behaviour.
If sales rise after they aired a racist ad, what's the company going to think? "Wow, racism sells. People love racism! Let's make more ads like that one!"
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