Confusing Title (new crowner Nov 1): Drunk On Malts

"Malts" sounds like it's about malted hops. The title should have the name of an clearly non-alcoholic drink.

edited 16th Oct '11 4:27:54 PM by bluehedgehogjunkie

I agree, it's a terribly misleading title.

74 wicks, 45 inbounds.

The "malts" being referred to are malted milkshakes, so Drunk On Milkshakes?

I don't think this is a real big deal and I doubt anyone's misused it but I can see the clash with things like malt liquor.

edited 16th Oct '11 5:03:01 PM by Elle

Why not just Drunk On Soda?

Or Drunk on Milk.

That works. The word "malt" clearly means beer to me, so I figured the trope was about drinking large quantities of a common low-alcoholic beverage (as opposed to getting drunk out of two or three cocktails).

How does that make Drunk on Milk better than Drunk On Soda, though? (I'd figure the latter would be a more fitting title since soda at least looks like booze...)

Don't want it confused with Frothy Mugs of Water. The trope is about getting actually "drunk" or Drowning My Sorrows in something that isn't at all boozy.

That said, a frequent target for this is things full of sugar, since both sugar and alcohol have hedonistic, sorrow-drowning associations.

edited 16th Oct '11 5:54:50 PM by Elle

Both are fine, imho. If I recall correctly, both Asterix and Full Metal Alchemist involve a character drowning his sorrows in milk.

I think Drunk on Milk just has a better ring to it, if that makes sense.

When I think of Drunk on Milk, I remember The Legend Of Zelda Majoras Mask and how milk was sold in bars and got a few characters drunk. +1 for milk, though soda makes sense too (although my part of North America doesn't use the term 'soda')

edited 16th Oct '11 11:22:39 PM by Gillespie

Milk, soda, root beer. Any of them work.

Root Beer doesn't work well as many are just censored alcohol with the word "Root" tagged on badly aka Frothy Mugs of Water.

Milk or soda sounds good.

edited 17th Oct '11 12:25:41 AM by Raso

I'd go with milk, simply because "soda" is a regionalism. Pulling from The Other Wiki, names include: "soft drink ... soda, pop, coke, soda pop, fizzy drink, tonic, or carbonated beverage." Meanwhile, it doesn't matter where you go in the English-speaking world, we always refer to the same class of beverages, made from the secretions of the mammary glands, as milk.

Plus, given that milk gives connotations of mildness and being suitable for children. The character Milquetoast was named that so that his name would be indicative of how mild he is. The stereotypical wimp drink in a bar is milk, in part for its mildness (and in part because of how odd it would be for the bar to have milk on hand).

Bump. Is this healthy enough to keep the current name?

I think it is - without doing an exhaustive check I've never seen it misused - but swapping the title for one of the suggestions would be harmless and possibly beneficial. It's got modest but healthy numbers - 45 inbounds, 77 wicks.

^^^: http://www.popvssoda.com/

YAY FOR POP

I think we should get a crowner on here:

• Drunk On Soda
• Drunk on Milk
• Keep the name as-is
• (additional non-alcoholic option if there is one)

PS: Bars do usually have milk on-hand for drinks such as paralyzers, brown cows and other milk-based cocktails.

edited 26th Oct '11 11:33:19 PM by Gillespie

That works for me. That said, I don't see any objections here to just renaming it to "drunk on milk".

Hey, even those of us who drink soda say "pop"... of course, when we say it, it's a hard candy on a stick that one generally lets dissolve in the mouth, and we use it as a short nickname for "lollipop," but we do use it.

I don't think misuse is a problem, although underuse arguably is. I'm fine with either keeping the original name or using Drunk on Milk as the main name instead of as a redirect. Before swapping, though, I think we should ask if the small number is due to a poor name or if it's just not a very common trope. I suspect it is somewhat common in works for kids, but I don't know.

edited 27th Oct '11 8:19:10 AM by 32_Footsteps

I still think Drunk On Milkshakes is more attractive... *crickets*

That has the same problems as the current name (considering that it's just a synonym for the current trope name) and Drunk On Soda - "milkshake" is a regionalism. We should strive to avoid provincialism in our trope names.

Oi, what's regional about milkshake? Unlike soda/pop, I've never heard them called anything else.

And it means the same thing as the intended use of "malt" - malt is a particular kind of milkshake - but it can't so easily be confused for something alcoholic!

I currently live in the Boston metro area, and what they traditionally call milkshakes, I grew up just calling flavored milk. Around here, you order a frappe. Seeing that I did grow up calling a blend of ice cream and milk a milkshake, this sometimes throws me.

And while I grew up thinking that a malt was specifically a milk-based drink mixed with malted milk powder, I do know people who call all milkshakes "malts" regardless of whether or not malted milk powder is involved.