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Acebrock He/Him from So-Cal Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: My elf kissing days are over
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#1: Oct 9th 2011 at 10:35:09 PM

First off, stats:

I've Fallen And I Can't Get Up found in: 6 articles, excluding discussions.

This title has brought 4 people to the wiki from non-search engine links since 20th FEB '09.

Now, I don't see anything wrong with the name (other than the fact that it's a stock phrase), or the description. I just think the article needs some serious love.

Also, we've gone under 1000 articles! Celebrations are in order.

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#2: Oct 9th 2011 at 11:17:50 PM

What I'm guessing is that the name sounds like it's too specific. The meme that goes with that particular name is much narrower than "Person falls and can't get up alone".

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#3: Oct 10th 2011 at 11:07:09 AM

A name like that is pretty awkward to type correctly, which would explain its underuse. Also, yeah, it's a meme, and a really old one at that, and one that doesn't appear to mean what the trope is about.

It seems to me this name is just being clever for the sake of it (and at the expense of clarity), and I'd prefer a different name.

Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!
20LogRoot10 Since: Aug, 2011
#4: Dec 8th 2011 at 8:18:02 PM

The old ptitle has been cut; I've updated the tag(stats for the new page are sixteen wicks and four inbounds). Given the support for a rename, I've created a single prop crowner here.

And bump.

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ChaoticNovelist Since: Jun, 2010
#5: Dec 10th 2011 at 7:41:19 PM

Yeah we definitely need to rename this. Its a stock quote, its has poor use, all around bad.

DrStarky Okay Guy from Corn And Pig Land Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
Okay Guy
#6: Dec 10th 2011 at 8:07:40 PM

Cripling Trip?

Put me in motion, drink the potion, use the lotion, drain the ocean, cause commotion, fake devotion, entertain a notion, be Nova Scotian
Acebrock He/Him from So-Cal Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: My elf kissing days are over
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#8: Dec 12th 2011 at 5:27:31 AM

Ironic that this trope has fallen and can't get up. tongue

But yeah, it needs a rename.

"The Daily Show has to be right 100% of the time; FOX News only has to be right once." - Jon Stewart
Acebrock He/Him from So-Cal Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: My elf kissing days are over
He/Him
#9: Dec 12th 2011 at 3:44:08 PM

The crowner's been up for three and a half days and has never been in danger of falling below the 2:1 ratio. I think we can call it.

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Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#10: Dec 12th 2011 at 4:23:17 PM

Dramatic Trip? Unless that sounds too much like a journey. Maybe 'Slip' would be better. Dunno.

edited 12th Dec '11 4:25:22 PM by Euodiachloris

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#11: Dec 17th 2011 at 4:36:57 PM

[up] Dramatic Slip seems better, though we should really keep trying to come up with something better still.

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BobbyG vigilantly taxonomish from England Since: Jan, 2001
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#13: Dec 20th 2011 at 6:00:29 PM

I voted down everything with "disabling" or "crippling" in the title, because that makes it seem like it's about someone becoming handicapped as a result.

So far Dramatic Slip is my favourite. I'd consider Dramatic Fall my 2nd-favourite, but apart from the "autumn" connotation of "fall," it could sound like it's about falling from high places. Stuff with "trip" in the title seems like it could simply be about going on a trip.

edited 20th Dec '11 6:01:21 PM by HiddenFacedMatt

"The Daily Show has to be right 100% of the time; FOX News only has to be right once." - Jon Stewart
Firebert That One Guy from Somewhere in Illinois Since: Jan, 2001
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#15: Dec 28th 2011 at 7:11:16 AM

As of this post, Dramatic Slip is 4 points in the green. The 2nd most popular option, Crippling Fall, is at 0, and it sounds like it is about someone becoming handicapped as a result, so it really is not a good option anyway. The rest of the options are at -3 or less, putting Dramatic Slip 7 points ahead of them.

I say it's time to call this.

edited 28th Dec '11 7:12:34 AM by HiddenFacedMatt

"The Daily Show has to be right 100% of the time; FOX News only has to be right once." - Jon Stewart
BobbyG vigilantly taxonomish from England Since: Jan, 2001
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#17: Jan 1st 2012 at 1:58:18 AM

...Really? Six total votes is enough for a "call" rather than "wait for more votes"?

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#18: Jan 1st 2012 at 5:49:21 PM

[up] Yes. The votes were moving very slowly, and the 2nd-highest-ranked option had a lot of potential for confusion, and the leading option was 7 points ahead of the rest of them.

"The Daily Show has to be right 100% of the time; FOX News only has to be right once." - Jon Stewart
LouieW Loser from Babycowland Since: Aug, 2009
Loser
#19: Jan 2nd 2012 at 12:36:43 PM

I've Fallen and I Can't Get Up is now a redirect for Dramatic Slip, the wicks should be fixed, I sent a report to move the discussion page, and there are now notes about the change on the Renamed Tropes page and in the renamed tropes thread. A few of the examples were snipped for being misuse for the stock phrase, but that means that there really are not many examples left which could be an issue.

I also made an Image Pickin' thread for the trope here given the fact that the current image is based on the stock phrase meaning of the trope rather than its actual meaning.

It is probably a good idea to do a quick check of this rename in case I made any mistakes.

edited 2nd Jan '12 12:38:59 PM by LouieW

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8th Dec '11 8:16:11 PM

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