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Machini Since: Nov, 2011
#201: Dec 12th 2012 at 10:32:11 PM

So what are the details for "Yuno Clones"? Pink hair and eyes? Probably its predecessor would already be either Lucy and/or Johann Liebert.

Now for Yuno, she's still a grade school kid (around Yukiteru's age) so calling her a Psychopathic Womanchild would be nonsense because she isn't an adult, so it would be more sensicle to call her Enfant Terrible since she's still a child, not an adult. Also, she's an expy of basically the most repulsive parts of Lucy and Johann Liebert rolled into one humanoid mass; combining the depravity, insanity, and appearance of both.

To explain Yuno being on the same level of depravity as Johann, she was nasty in the first place (such as killing virtually ANYONE WHO WAS EVEN NEAR YUKI AT ALL, sometimes without provocation whatsoever) but gleefully skips past the horizon when she lies to Yuki and convinces him to kill his friends who were trying to tell him the truth, then laughs at their deaths when she succeeds and then kills Akise, thus eliminating her of any sympathy that her Freudian Excuse could elicit the audience. It doesn't help that she pulls off a Karma Houdini. Overall, Mirai Nikki is an Evil Versus Evil storyline since everyone in the series who has a Diary is or becomes horribly insane and violent. Initially, it was a Black-and-Gray Morality storyline but once Yuki becomes just as bad as all the other Diary Holders, it goes into this.

edited 12th Dec '12 10:54:54 PM by Machini

rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#202: Dec 12th 2012 at 10:37:07 PM

There isn't really enough to make a trope for that. Yuuno and Rin don't have anything in common except looking the same and being major female characters. Yeah, they're both mentally unbalanced, but so is everyone else in both series and they're very different kinds of unhinged from each other. As far as I know, Yuuno hasn't inspired any copycats, either.

Gilphon Since: Oct, 2009
#203: Dec 12th 2012 at 11:01:36 PM

Once you take even a cursory glance at their motivations, one of course sees huge differences between Yuno and Rin, but they have very much same the same feel to them.

I realize that statement was vague to the point of uselessness, but I think we can understand what I meant, and I don't think it was unintentional. The author is, to my eyes, trying to draw in the same people who were fans of his last work by deliberately alluding to it.

UltimatelySubjective Since: Jun, 2011
#204: Dec 12th 2012 at 11:02:53 PM

Well I do think they're basically Expies.

An Expy doesn't have to be exactly the same.

rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#205: Dec 12th 2012 at 11:39:51 PM

Okay, I gotcha. Two similar-feeling and identical-looking characters used by the same guy still isn't enough to build a trope around, though.

Divinekine Since: Nov, 2010
#206: Jan 2nd 2013 at 6:37:40 AM

Chapter 12 is finally translated. Really wish the scanlations weren't so far behind...

Well at least this chapter more or less answered the question of why Eiji wasn't able to control the Ten way back when they first recruited him. Seems Hiragi's power can reverse or negative his. Kind of hard to tell which.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#207: Jan 2nd 2013 at 8:56:02 AM

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Seems to be the case.

Damn, that Hiragi is rocking the Smug smile. He's clearly enjoying using Eiji as a puppet.

I love the irony of the guy who can make anyone do as he pleases being manipulated by someone else.

His closest ally wants him dead, the world thinks he's the biggest villain ever, and all he wants is to live quietly with his sister, but even that is impossible.

Eiji is really screwed.

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fillerdude Since: Jul, 2010
#208: Jan 2nd 2013 at 5:26:25 PM

What Hiiragi did reminds me of a jolly fellow in Eight Bit Theater.

UltimatelySubjective Since: Jun, 2011
#209: Jan 2nd 2013 at 10:11:02 PM

I liked chapter 11. It was better than the preceding chapters.

Still !!! but this time I'm actually interested to see what developed this chapter.

UltimatelySubjective Since: Jun, 2011
#210: Sep 19th 2013 at 8:53:09 AM

Chapter 12 has been out for a while. New translation group... I think.

Rin in a good mood is kind of weird, almost off putting

And Rin vs Eiji doesn't seem like a fair fight.

edited 19th Sep '13 8:53:32 AM by UltimatelySubjective

CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#211: May 17th 2014 at 5:37:47 PM

It's pretty weird how everyone treats the protagonist like he's a monster.

He was only a little kid. What would you expect if a kid suddenly got Godlike powers? He meant well, anyway...

And normally you wouldn't expect to get superpowers just by saying something out-loud on a whim, either.

UltimatelySubjective Since: Jun, 2011
#212: May 17th 2014 at 6:02:36 PM

He might be a monster now. Power corrupts and all that. I think there's plenty of reason to be afraid of him powers alone not even counting his mysterious connection to that girl who can set powers at will.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#213: May 17th 2014 at 6:25:46 PM

Well, you also have to consider that a lot of people don't know the context: all they know is that this guy fucked up the world.

Also, now he's being forced to be the figure-head of an organization that is trying to rule the world, so that makes him look even worse.

As for Rin, she's kinda bug fuck crazy anyway, so we can't expect rationality from her.

What I want to know, is how so many people found out who he was, if he'd never used his power after that first time.

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Handsomerob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#214: Aug 14th 2014 at 11:35:17 AM

A lot has happened and we are now on Chapter 18.

Wow. The guy has just one thing he wants to do, and now this happens. It's like the whole point of that mission was to screw him over.

That's just mean.

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SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#215: Aug 26th 2014 at 12:42:54 PM

I have just caught up with this series. Chapter 21: Sena is cool

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#216: Aug 26th 2014 at 4:13:22 PM

She is.

I'm not sure where she stands on what her brother may or may not have done.

Hell, I'm not even sure who the good guys and bad guys are anymore.

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SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#217: Apr 16th 2016 at 5:51:37 AM

First episode of the anime is out. There were some trippy moments in the beginning and it had a bit of a fragmentary feel to it (as the first episode of the manga did if I remember correctly) but it was still entertaining. I did like the animation of Eiji's domain.

HanabiraKage Since: Oct, 2011
#218: Apr 16th 2016 at 7:41:46 PM

Who the fuck directed this? Fire him. Now.

Mizerous Takat Empress from Outworld Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
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#219: Apr 16th 2016 at 7:50:00 PM

[up] This made me lmao

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Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#220: Apr 16th 2016 at 11:48:40 PM

I watched the first episode, and I have to ask.. are we supposed to root for the main character? Because he seems kinda evil.

HanabiraKage Since: Oct, 2011
#221: Apr 17th 2016 at 12:05:27 AM

[up] It didn't come across very well, but he shares the same ideals as that one character he likes; he wishes to conquer the world in order to save it.

Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#222: Apr 17th 2016 at 12:07:42 AM

Yeah, but he seems to do it by literally forcing people into compliance with his powers. Usually a guy who wants to take over the world "for it's own good" by mind controlling everyone is the villain.

HanabiraKage Since: Oct, 2011
#223: Apr 17th 2016 at 12:10:45 AM

[up] I think the main reason he was forced to do so in this case was because she was trying to kill him.

Also, his powers aren't...absolute, IIRC. You'll see what I mean next episode if they don't fuck it up.

Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#224: Apr 23rd 2016 at 5:12:25 AM

Okay, this show is messed up. We'll be basically following an Evil Organization bent on world domination.

Also, Eiji and Rin relationship is just disturbing.

SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#225: Apr 23rd 2016 at 6:04:18 AM

Episode 2 was a lot less fragmentary but instead it felt a little rushed and inelegant in its narrative. It was also a lot funnier with Rin's trouble with traps

[up]There are still good guys and bad guys though and not everything may be as it appears.


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