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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#1: Sep 30th 2011 at 6:46:25 AM

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Now, according to the definitions of each trope, which one do you believe would apply to an imaginary bipedal version of the mermaid in the attached picture here?

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#2: Sep 30th 2011 at 11:26:13 AM

Given the scales up and down the body, plus the fins behind the ears (which I've seen before, and that never makes sense - fish don't have such structures by their auditory organs and such structures would inhibit their speed), I would default towards placing them in Fish People... in fact, I think scales in general are the dividing line between the two tropes to me.

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#3: Sep 30th 2011 at 11:39:50 AM

Well, yeah, but the current pic makes it seem like typical Fish People have to be more or less "fish with humanoid body structure (two arms, two legs, vaguely humanoid-shaped head with forward-facing eyes and mouth)", instead of "humanoid creature that has many fish-like characteristics that easily invalidate any attempt at classifying as Apparently Human Merfolk".

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HeavyDDR Who's Vergo-san. from Central Texas Since: Jul, 2009
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#4: Sep 30th 2011 at 7:41:00 PM

I've always used One Piece to set the standard, which is

  • More fish on bottom (i.e. has tail) - mermaid/man.
  • More fish on top (i.e. has human legs) - fishman/woman.

Though, from what I can see from Apparently Human Merfolk, that trope covers more human looking people that are barely any fish at all - they just happen to live underwater and have access to land.

As far as I can tell, anyway.

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AndrewGPaul Since: Oct, 2009
#5: Oct 1st 2011 at 1:57:01 AM

From the Apparently Human Merfolk page:

"They look so human that they could wander unnoticed down a city street, but can breathe and live underwater." It's pretty clear. The picture you show clearly couldn't walk down a city street unnoticed, even if she had legs and clothes. It doesn't seem to really fit Fish People. On the other hand, it looks like a shoe-in for Our Mermaids Are Different.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#6: Oct 1st 2011 at 5:28:39 AM

Technically, mermaids don't count for Fish People, and thus neither the picture nor Our Mermaids Are Different can intersect with Fish People; I'm only using the pic for the almost-human-except-for-partially-scaly-skin appearance. The issue that's confounding is that Fish People's writeup makes it look like "a fish with a generally humanoid body structure", and thus seems to exclude cases of "looks like a human with scales over much of their body, and other somewhat-minor fish features like fins, gills, etc.", so I'm not sure if characters like Darkstalkers' Rikuo/Aulbath would fit the trope.

edited 1st Oct '11 5:30:31 AM by MarqFJA

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