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DRCEQ Since: Oct, 2009
#1: Sep 13th 2011 at 4:05:29 PM

.... and doesn't explain what the trope is with the title.

Yeah. Uncle Herbie is a trope where, basically, the plot is resolved and all the loose ends tied up before the end of the episode, but there's still time to kill, so the show starts making stuff up or show something completely unrelated for that very purpose.

I'd like to think of it as a Big-Lipped Alligator Moment that happens after the plot has ended.

Anyways, 15 articles, 16 people brought in since Feb '09.

The trope is just plain not thriving. It needs a rename to describe it better, or at least some redirects to help it work. I don't want to say that Welcome Back Kotter is obscure, but the trope explains why it is named as such, and I just don't feel like it's really that big a reference.

edited 13th Sep '11 4:06:51 PM by DRCEQ

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#2: Sep 13th 2011 at 6:20:23 PM

Does this ever need a rename. Totally nonindicative title - most character-named tropes at least have the decency to be tropes about characters - and truly awful usage. Redirects alone will not cut it here.

Falco Since: Mar, 2011
#3: Sep 13th 2011 at 7:34:48 PM

Needs rename.

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20LogRoot10 Since: Aug, 2011
#4: Sep 13th 2011 at 7:53:46 PM

BLAM Ending?

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#6: Sep 13th 2011 at 8:06:42 PM

Mmm... Felicia... *stares at DRCEQ's icon*

Sorry. Yeah, rename in order. Character-named trope that has nothing to do with a character.

DRCEQ Since: Oct, 2009
#8: Sep 13th 2011 at 8:15:58 PM

What about Time Killer Ending?

Filler Ending makes it sound... I don't know, like there's still more of the plot left to cover later on.

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#9: Sep 13th 2011 at 8:31:49 PM

I like Time Killer Ending myself - I suspect that Filler Ending might get mistaken for the end of a batch of Filler Episodes.

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DRCEQ Since: Oct, 2009
#10: Sep 13th 2011 at 8:59:01 PM

[up] Yes, thank you. That's what I was trying to think of. I feel that Filler Ending would just confuse it with, well.. Filler arcs... Or Gecko Ending.

edited 13th Sep '11 8:59:15 PM by DRCEQ

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#13: Sep 14th 2011 at 3:10:04 AM

It sounds a bit like an excuse for bashing, too. "Well, they solved the mystery, and I don't care about the stupid romantic subplot, so resolving that is just useless filler. They should have left it out entirely!"

I find it hard to imagine a writer doing this deliberately (or admitting it, if he did).

However, looking at the examples, many of them are about shows that regularly (in some cases, invariably) reserve time at the end for an unconnected joke. And if that's the trope, then I can probably provide another example or two, but it doesn't fit the name Time Killer Ending. In many of these shows, the time is reserved for the joke no matter what! So it's not killing time — they'll shorten the main plot if they have to to make sure there's room for the Last Scene Irrelevant Joke.

edited 14th Sep '11 3:12:19 AM by Xtifr

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#15: Sep 14th 2011 at 1:08:57 PM

End-of-Episode Silliness?

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Webby Very Manly Muppet Since: Dec, 2010
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#16: Sep 14th 2011 at 1:16:15 PM

I suspect that Filler Ending might get mistaken for the end of a batch of Filler Episodes.

Ending Filler, perhaps? Sounds more definitely like "the filler at the ending".

[up][up][up] I like Last Scene Irrelevant Joke. Doesn't leave much room for misuse.

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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#17: Sep 14th 2011 at 1:25:16 PM

I think "filler" is a misleading term (and maybe the description should be tweaked to suggest that it's not necessarily filler, except in a very loose sense). But I'm still seeing at least three workable suggestions. No one seems to dispute that a rename is justified; should we jump straight to a multiple-name crowner?

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Webby Very Manly Muppet Since: Dec, 2010
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#18: Sep 14th 2011 at 1:33:41 PM

I'd say so. No one seems particularly attached to the current name.

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DRCEQ Since: Oct, 2009
Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#20: Sep 16th 2011 at 6:41:26 PM

The suggestions we have that actually seem to match the trope are: Last Scene Irrelevant Joke, Plot Resolved Joke Time (with a comma in the middle), and End-of-Episode Silliness. All the other suggestions seemed to be misreading the trope, so I suggest we start with these. Others can be added, of course, but we should try to make sure they match the trope.

edited 16th Sep '11 6:41:54 PM by Xtifr

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#21: Nov 19th 2011 at 3:33:23 PM

Crowner hooked.

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djbj Since: Oct, 2010
#22: Jan 14th 2012 at 10:05:17 AM

Bumping this to get more votes.

djbj Since: Oct, 2010
#23: Jan 28th 2012 at 9:17:51 AM

Bumping again because there's still no consensus on the crowner.

djbj Since: Oct, 2010
#24: Feb 2nd 2012 at 11:02:33 AM

Sigh... Still need more votes here, people.

djbj Since: Oct, 2010
#25: Feb 5th 2012 at 2:36:10 PM

I'm going to keep bumping this until we get enough votes.

Edit: That was quick.

edited 5th Feb '12 2:39:16 PM by djbj

AlternativeTitles: UncleHerbie
19th Nov '11 3:31:58 PM

Crown Description:

Uncle Herbie

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