Danny Phantom

Not really. Youngblood appeared in season 2 while Ember and Poindexter season 1. Honestly, we dont even know if Youngblood is a kid. Remember Desiree died of old age. Maybe ghosts look how they feel they should look. Technus changed when he upgraded himself.

We have only one good clue what the hell are ghosts: single line said by Maddie in Public Enemies. "Get your hands off our duly elected leader, you odd manifestation of ectoplasmic energy and post-human consciousness! " This implies that ghosts are less dead people but more echos of real people. This explain why they're so immoral and obsessed-they're not really people so they suffer In-Universe Flanderization. Also, please note that even ghosts that have memories of people like Pointdexter still identify themselves as ghosts, not humans.

About guys like Skulker...I always thought that these are ghosts that absorbed only small parts of consciousness, thus never gaining any memories or identity from others, but I saw one fanfic where it was explained that he was mixed of few human conspicuousnesses into one.

I haven't watched Danny Phantom in a while so I wasn't to sure about that....

edited 6th Sep '15 10:55:28 AM by Bleddyn

I haven't seen it in while either. I'm just crazy like that.

You know when you think about it, Danny Phantom did at least four things better than the other Butch Hartman shows:

1. Unlike FOP, Danny Phantom actually gave us somewhat competent parents (but not by much) who genuinely did at least try to put their children's needs first. As opposed to Timmy Turner's parents, who frequently abandon their child for their own enjoyment without even a second thought.

2. Unlike T.U.F.F. Puppy, Danny Phantom gave us villains that, even in the midst of Villain Decay, still did manage to establish themselves as threats that needed to be dealt with ASAP. Snap Trap and Chameleon are just a pair of sad joke villains now.

3. Unlike FOP, Danny Phantom's main character had friends that were true blue. Tucker and Sam have both made it clear that would never abandon Danny no matter what. Whenever it looks like they might do that, they're not only rare but they're specifically played for humor. However, when it really counts in the story, they will stand by Danny til the bitter end, this is more than what could be said for Chester and A.J.

4. Unlike FOP, Danny Phantom did at least try to make School Drama more realistic

FOP isn't out to give it's characters realistic relationships - his parents are incompetent and his friends are flakes isn't bad characterization, it's an essential part of the humor related to those characters. It wouldn't necessarily call Danny Phantom better for doing it differently, because they're two very different shows with very different tones and objectives: it's apples and oranges.

Likewise, most of Tuff Puppy's humor comes from everybody being as silly as possible. That the villains are laughable and harmless is part of the point.

edited 17th Oct '15 4:46:49 PM by KnownUnknown

What you're saying is that Danny Phantom is the only Hartman show that isn't just pure comedy. And that Hartman likes Comedic Sociopathy.

edited 17th Oct '15 11:47:58 PM by Sunchet

The thing about Danny Phantom is that, right down to its origin story, the show was basically trying to be spoopy Spider-Man, and two of Spider-Man's defining elements were relatable story elements and the main character's life basically sucking. (And we could go even further with stuff veering into ripoff territory, like Flash Thompson Dash Baxter, but that's a story for another time.) It wouldn't work if it didn't have at least some realism to its relationships and characters.

edited 18th Oct '15 7:59:33 AM by Odd1

I dunno, I think Timmy Turner also suppose to be kid with sucky (its right there in the intro) life that kids that can relate to.

And come on, lets be fair. They also copied Ghostbusters and Dr Doom's origin and character dynamics.

edited 22nd Jan '16 8:54:44 AM by Sunchet

Copying Ghostbusters is inevitable when it comes to a ghost hunting show, though. Hell, even stuff like Luigis Mansion does that. I'm talking about the overall structure of the character setups and relationships.

The key difference between Danny and Timmy's miserable little lives is that while the latter is played for humor, the former is generally played for drama.

Yeah, it's one of the things that I find amusing/ annoying is the sheer amount of folks who expect genuine, consistant characterization, character growth, etc, from something that is essentially a farce. It's like complaining that we never get to know much about the deeper relationships between characters in a Monty Python sketch. I can kind of understand it given that, in the case of things like Family Guy and Fairly Odd Parents its farce as series television (the same continued situation can feel stale after continued exposure—even if that situation is essential to the nature of the show).

I agree though, that you can't really compare Danny Phantom to F.O.P. The visual style is similar, but otherwise it's a completely different type of show.

DP is a action/drama series.

Fo P is a comedy show.

they really arnt comparable in their plots and character development.

Rewatching the show again...DESIREE IS SO COOL AHHHHHHHHHHHHH

They could have easily written the likes of Vortex and Undergrowth as older ghosts/long deceased humans who slowly lost their memories as their obsessions grew stronger turning them into the monsters they are now.

Would have been an excellent thing they could have played in a dynamic of human conscious and memories/skill versus monstrosity and menace/power which would have further made Dark Danny an even more chilling enemy.

All the monstrosity but the memories of his previous hosts.

edited 21st Oct '15 10:26:51 AM by qtjinla15

That is a pretty cool idea....

So something in kinda an Adventure Time vein.

So, they're not mean, they're a thousand years old, And they just lost track of their moral code?

Actually this is more less what I always assumed about ghosts. They're not exactly evil, but ages of existence leads to Screw The Rules, I'm Immortal outlook.

And I dunno. Ghosts already feel like twisted version of real people with dubious morality, I don't see how Vortex is more obsessed then Spectra with his goal.

So "elder ghosts" wouldn't work in my opinion. "Deceased humans" would but here I disagree on "easily" part. Yeah, show referenced idea that ghosts are humans once or twice, but I don't think they were ready to really explore it. It was still a Hartman show.

How could it not work? Just simply have two types of ghost. Just have the remnants of ectoplasmic energy effect the environment or have ghosts who powers manifest in way it gives birth to separate entities.

I mean we have plants and storms, and machinery and wishes as basis for ghost powers. A ghost power giving birth to nightmare creatures seems more in line and making sense with being ghoulish entities then control over technology.

Perhaps some of them are elementals?

Looking back, this was a surprisingly bold show for Nick to air. The same guy that made Fairly Oddparents made one of the first kids' shows to deal with "you either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain" in the form of The Ultimate Enemy. It might've been even better if Steve Marmel had control of Season 3 like he wanted, but it was still really good nonetheless.

I mean, it was the best Spider-Man show we had up until The Spectacular Spider-Man came out.

Though I'll never forgive that show for using the phrase "Don't go emo on me, bro."

edited 6th Feb '16 7:53:11 PM by Odd1

The first Sam and Danny designs really caught my eye. It's the Danny Phantom trio, 10 years later, as drawn by series creator Butch Hartman.

edited 14th Sep '16 6:09:20 AM by Soble

This kinda look like in these cartoon where hero tells how something happened and exaggerate to makes themselves look cooler, especially Danny. He looks odd with Heroic Build.

edited 14th Sep '16 6:15:41 AM by Sunchet

Fenton Thermos in the glove and the addition of Dark Danny's cape though. Melike.

This, Kids Next Door, and Samurai Jack - they're all set to make a comeback.

But I thought KND didn't get enough money for a revival.

Not necessarily that, just Cartoon Network didn't want it.

Those redesigns are cool. I wonder if it actually is hinting at an actual revival or just a fun tease.

edited 14th Sep '16 7:58:14 AM by Odd1