Difficult to see: Cosmetically Advanced Prequel

Bump...any other thoughts?

Throwing random darts. These are from 2001 and 2010.

Odyssey 1, various odyssey 2. 2010◊ and 2010 collage.◊

Maybe a videogame example might be easier to pull off, due to graphics evolution being a lot more obvious in that media than with films. Street Fighter and Deus Ex would both be examples.

"We are not a stuffy encyclopedic wiki. We're a buttload more informal".

Not sure Street Fighter counts. The Alpha games are remaking the first game, instead of taking place before the series.

Now compare Resident Evil 0 with the Playstation version of Resident Evil 1 could work.

I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.

The picture looks fine to me.

Improving as an author, one video at a time.

voting for the Star Trek comparison.

Clock is set.

Here's a whole set of different options. Some of them still need a bit of scaling down.

I think I like the Uhura ones the most. Especially this one◊. The hair tells you which decade each photo was taken, and her age tells you when they're supposed to take place in the Star Trek timeline.

And to anyone saying that it's an alternate timeline, not a prequal; Star Trek 2009 takes place right after the timeline split. There wasn't time for technology or aesthetics to become radically different from the main timeline.

edited 25th Jan '12 4:18:55 PM by abk0100

I like the suggestion in 33. It's less cluttered than one of the entire console room. Also, it's truly not a standard prequel, but in spirit and visual effect, it works perfectly.

edited 25th Jan '12 5:27:09 PM by agentjohnbishop

Star Trek X is not a prequel*

. You could say "it's not a prequel but that's ok because...", but any justification doesn't change the first part and doesn't really matter. If anything is not ok to fudge, it's Star Trek; some rabid fan would take that down before you can say "but in spirit".

I like the image in 4.

edited 25th Jan '12 5:49:41 PM by rodneyAnonymous

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.

From the trope description:

"See, this can be a bit of a dilemma when it comes to visual and interactive media, concerning not only prequels, but spinoffs as well."

So even if you don't want to count Star Trek as a prequel, it still counts. Despite minor changes to the timeline, the movie still take place in the world of Star Trek, 30 years before the events of the original series, and yet it looks like way more advanced. It's not like someone went back in time and gave Starfleet super-advanced new technology - the only changes made were to the characters.

You'd have to completely deny that Tropes Are Flexible to say that it doesn't count just because of a technicality.

Batman Begins is set in Gotham City and uses almost all the same characters (different villains), but it's not a prequel to Batman Forever.

An image of an example that isn't played straight (or is otherwise a variation of some kind) is a really bad idea. It's unclear and it is begging for a fight.

I don't deny it's an example, of course not. I deny that an arguable example makes a good page image.

edited 25th Jan '12 6:10:54 PM by rodneyAnonymous

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.

Ah, okay, that makes more sense.

Still, I don't really think it isn't a straight example so much as it just doesn't fit the trope title. I think the "prequel" in the title is just shorthand for "work that takes place at an earlier point in the chronology of the series." If the 2009 Star Trek conflicted with the trope description, that would be one thing, but conflicting with the trope's title shouldn't really be important.

I have to agree with rodney on this one; we need to play this close to the vest, and that means sticking to true prequels.

To me, that's kind of like only accepting pictures of bears for Exit, Pursued by a Bear.

Besides, even its own page says that Star Trek is a prequel. It's a total non-issue.

edited 25th Jan '12 9:13:02 PM by abk0100

I do not think it is like that at all. Tomato is not the best example of a fruit. Example? Yes. Page image? No.

edited 25th Jan '12 9:20:18 PM by rodneyAnonymous

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.

But what's wrong with it as an example, other than it not quite matching the name?

On one hand is a restriction (bears...) that comes from closely adhering to a trope's title. On the other hand is a restriction (prequels...) that comes from closely adhering to a trope's meaning.

Nothing is wrong with it as an example, although it's not really a straight example of a Cosmetically-Advanced Prequel (it's not a straight example of a reboot either... that movie would be an unclear page image for a trope about reboots, too). Examples can be perfectly good but not make a good page image for some reason.

edited 25th Jan '12 10:05:45 PM by rodneyAnonymous

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.

If we're having to debate on whether or not something truly counts as a prequel, then we need to move to something else. The improved TOS/Enterprise pic unequivocally counts, and works for a quality improvement to the current, and since the clock's up, let's run with it...we can start a new thread if something better comes along. Locking up.