Venezuela and the Chavez Legacy

I have this thread on my watchlist, and I can manage to get the gist of the posts that are written in Spanish. I'm also concerned about the Portuguese community there, which is one of the reasons I follow this thread.

edited 29th Jun '16 7:28:10 AM by Quag15

Leo cada tanto, quiero ver como les va a nuestros compañeros del mercosur. Ahora, si tan solo hubiera un thread uruguayo (pueden usar el de nuestro, total son provincia).

I really wished the rest of the South America paid more attention to Venezuela woes.

So far the only thing I've seen our leaders do was Michel Temer announcing he'd send a shipment of medicine to Venezuela because of the shortages, to the chagrin of the people who think those should go to us because of our recession.

Sadly Dilma, Kirchner, Correa and Morales hardly spoke against Maduro because "muh socialist fraternity!" and let the decaying of the Venezuelan situation go as it is.

I think save from Chile and Colombia the whole continent is broke as fuck due to shitty economic policies and corruption. Which makes the other gathering together to help Venezuela very unlikely.

edited 29th Jun '16 8:03:55 AM by AngelusNox

I think Uruguay's doing somewhat fine.

Colombia is well on It's way to becoming another communist wreck thanks to Santos.

Eh? That's news for me.

@ Nox:

How's Guyana?

I have to be reminded that both Guiana and the French ones exists.

Damn, the Latin American Socialists have the talent of ruining everything they touch.

Glorious Latin Socialism cannot into fail,only capitalist urban class pigs think so.

It's a shame people over here actually think this.I mean,we're certainly a continent away,and they don't bother to research much,but still.

Best of luck you guys.

Well they wanted everyone to be more equal, with the exception of themselves of course, now everyone is equally poor.

[Animal Farm Intensifies]

Napoleon at least had a functioning farm.

1905: What? How? What did he do?

Well, Colombia already has the Cubans running important places in the government and I've already heard of farmers getting their territories expropriated illegaly so they are handed over to drug dealers. Besides, I don't like Santos because he is a descendant of Santander.

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Nah, It's not just that, not only does Santos has an open communist background, the frontier is already broken because of the FARC.

Holy fucking shit, sure Uribe did have his shady deals but at least he kept the focus on unfucking Colombia and improving the economic standing.

Is there any news in English where I can read about Santos fuck ups?

edited 29th Jun '16 4:09:56 PM by AngelusNox

Santos... that guy has to be the Colombian anti-christ.

I would love to explain it better but my computer got fried so I can't give decent links.

That (plus Suriname). We get news about Guyana when there's something about our border dispute, but that's about it. I'm guessing the language barrier, low population and us not having large cities near there means they might as well be on a different continent.

As for Colombia, the issue I hear most often is that the terms for the disarmament treaty are too lenient for their guerrillas and allows them to screw up the country in the future.

I am a little saddened that we didn't keep pressure on Venezuela for any other reason than our corrupt italianissimo wanted to keep the heat off him. And the new president has been pretty neutral because realpolitik, argh.

A little late, but another lurker reporting in. Also, for the pitance that its worth, best wishes and I hope you all get through this okay. Both Venezuela as a whole, and all the tropers there.

edited 30th Jun '16 2:09:51 AM by Sharur

Thanks for the support guys, I hope we can solve this.

I wanted everything to be solved in the elections of the 6-D but I don't know taking into account all the problems that the new government will have to face it might be worth the wait. I'm sure no matter which method the opposition tries if they properly organize themselves with a popular rejection of over 80% they could force the government into doing whatever they wanted.

It's getting harder and harder to be optimistic when we hit a new low everyday, kinda makes you miss those days when the government at least lied with intelligence, now they enjoy telling bold-faced lies to the people, trying to convince us that the things that WE (the people) live everyday are just delusional events. We kinda live in Wonderland, it's a wonder the country hasn't collapsed yet, since the government is pretty much wiping their asses with the constitution without consequence.

People in 1999: Meh, let's vote for Chavez, what could possibly go wrong?

I feel yah, I wanted to arrogantly smile and say everything was going to be ok. But I don't know after watching people fall so low I don't think we can be governed any other way that isn't with fist and bullets.

to be fair, thing werent good in 99 and playing capitan hindsight matter very little, right now is stare contest with the red to see how much they last

Another Chinese market was looted in San Felix.

Incluso en nuestra mejor epoca esto era normal, la constitución de 1961 paso mas de la mitad de su existencia suspendida.

Another reason because other latin america comunity is because chavez was the head of the new latin left for a lot of times as he was loudest(very loud) voice so is not a surprise the answer have been slow.

"Terminus reporting. Perhaps not the most appropriate name considering the situation."

Please, what best that having a ship from grandfather nurgle, washing the rot and decat of our country?

Anyway I have look anglospealing country and they have somewhat similar problems: US have Trump or far right chavez and the Brexit use the same hear populism here "we are so fucking AWSOME that we only need shout louder and problem will go away"

unfortanly neither of those country have oil.....