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Welcome to the main discussion thread for the Marvel Cinematic Universe! I'm editing this OP and pinning it to establish some basic guidelines. All of the Media Forum rules still apply.

  • This thread is for talking about the live-action films, TV shows, animated works, and related content that use the Marvel brand, currently owned by Disney.
  • While mild digressions are okay, discussion of the comic books should go in this thread. Extended digressions may be thumped as off-topic.
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[Edited by Fighteer]

    Original post 
Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM

maxwellelvis Mad Scientist Wannabe from undisclosed location Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: In my bunk
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#18726: Sep 19th 2014 at 7:53:55 PM

And a couple samurai films, maybe a few episodes of Space Battleship Yamato depending on when Lucas made his trip to Japan. Oh, and The Dam Busters.

edited 19th Sep '14 7:54:50 PM by maxwellelvis

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#18727: Sep 19th 2014 at 8:12:22 PM

Though I've always hated this argument that nothing is truly original because it takes inspiration in something else. "Star Wars is just a bunch of 20th century serials mashed together" is like saying "Shakespeare's works were just a mis-mash of Greek tragedies".

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BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#18728: Sep 19th 2014 at 8:21:55 PM

It is. Talk to someone who studies Shakespeare, and they'll say exactly the same thing.

It's what Shakespeare did with the preexisting stories that's special.

Anyway, Star Wars is, above all, a textbook hero's journey. It may draw its trappings from various other sources, but its core plot is one of the oldest that humanity tells.

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#18729: Sep 19th 2014 at 8:24:07 PM

[up][up]I don't see why "everything comes from somewhere else" and "it's possible to create original works" are mutually exclusive.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
Colonial1.1 Since: Apr, 2010
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#18731: Sep 20th 2014 at 1:38:39 AM

The first Star Wars movie is just utterly predictable. It's not bad, but what made it special is the scale of it.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#18732: Sep 20th 2014 at 1:38:40 AM

Question: Anyone feel like we're giving Batroc too much credit in the Winter Soldier page? I mean, he got obliterated. He wasn't on even footing with Cap.

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#18733: Sep 20th 2014 at 1:46:30 AM

He did surprisingly well until Cap put away his shield. And I've seen that scene several times. Obliterated was everyone else on the ship against Cap. From the looks of it, Batroc was mostly pushing Cap back with kicks, forcing him to keep behind his shield. Once Cap put his shield away, it let him use his arms more. Batroc's a legs person, Cap's an arms person. And Cap has stronger arms.

edited 20th Sep '14 1:47:25 AM by Tuckerscreator

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TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#18735: Sep 20th 2014 at 6:14:16 AM

Every story has been written.

Creating a work of art isn't about making sure nobody has ever tread the same ground you're walking on. It's about what you do with the ground you're treading.

edited 20th Sep '14 6:15:16 AM by TobiasDrake

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#18736: Sep 20th 2014 at 6:20:17 AM

The difference between Eragon and Star Wars was that by the time Eragon came out, Star Wars was such a huge pop culture force that people immediately noticed it was just Star Wars with "star cruiser" swapped out for "dragon."

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#18737: Sep 20th 2014 at 7:51:48 AM

Question: Anyone feel like we're giving Batroc too much credit in the Winter Soldier page? I mean, he got obliterated. He wasn't on even footing with Cap.

I thought of him as a One-Scene Wonder. The only reason it's really notable is they managed to make him really cool despite the fact that he's usually considered a massive joke in the comics.

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#18738: Sep 20th 2014 at 7:53:52 AM

Hard to be taken serious when your title is "The Leaper".

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#18739: Sep 20th 2014 at 7:55:13 AM

Or have a handlebar mustache.

MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#18740: Sep 20th 2014 at 8:08:35 AM

Or wear so much violet with yellow underpants.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#18741: Sep 20th 2014 at 8:12:01 AM

Idris Elba says Marvel already has an actor signed on for Luke Cage. I wonder if they plan to announce something at NYCC next month since the Daredevil cast is supposed to be there.

MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#18742: Sep 20th 2014 at 8:13:55 AM

... THEY ALREADY HAVEA GUY SIGNED ON AS CAGE?

WELL SWEET CHRISTMAS, WHO IS IT, MARVEL!?

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BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#18743: Sep 20th 2014 at 8:14:49 AM

Hope it's Terry Crews.

Also, I hope Heimdall gets to be a big contributor to Thor 3. I love teaming Thor and Heimdall in Lego Marvel Super Heroes.

MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#18744: Sep 20th 2014 at 8:16:19 AM

I tend to put Power man and Iron Fist together myself. Except that causes transport issues...

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MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#18746: Sep 20th 2014 at 8:41:08 AM

They need a Power Skycycle, becuase every time I need higher ground I gotta switch to someone else. If Jessica Jones were in the game that wouldn't even be a problem, I would jsut run around as the Power Couple.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#18747: Sep 20th 2014 at 8:41:55 AM

I tend to just be Dormammu allied with a second Dormammu, but I fly around NYC as Vulture. tongue

edited 20th Sep '14 8:42:15 AM by Anomalocaris20

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maxwellelvis Mad Scientist Wannabe from undisclosed location Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: In my bunk
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#18748: Sep 20th 2014 at 10:00:14 AM

I think when Heroes for Hire was just them, they used Danny's limo. Though Luke would probably rather take the subway.

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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
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#18749: Sep 21st 2014 at 6:07:30 PM

Just wanted to say that Pedro Pascal would be my pick for Doctor Strange if I had a choice.

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#18750: Sep 21st 2014 at 6:08:55 PM

Indeed.

edited 21st Sep '14 6:26:59 PM by SonOfSharknado

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