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[Edited by Fighteer]

    Original post 
Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#31076: Apr 20th 2015 at 9:17:06 PM

That's true. Though, after Daredevil I'm really worried I'm not gonna like Jessica Jones.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#31077: Apr 20th 2015 at 9:54:49 PM

Alien inversion? Oh...you are all talking about "the incident"....

DeathsApprentice Jaded Techie Fox from The Grim Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
Jaded Techie Fox
#31078: Apr 20th 2015 at 10:01:04 PM

[up][up]Why's that?

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#31079: Apr 21st 2015 at 12:55:02 AM

[up]I guess because the show was a little bit too comfortable with victimizing female characters. It's all about the balance, but I guess with a female lead show it might be a little bit different.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#31080: Apr 21st 2015 at 12:57:44 AM

Joss Whedon killed Thor

Hah, no, but it's actually an interesting article that assures me his enthusiasm hasn't dipped. Energy, indeed, but passion, no.

edited 21st Apr '15 1:00:43 AM by Tuckerscreator

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#31081: Apr 21st 2015 at 1:03:15 AM

[up]x3 I wrote a whole post about it on Tumblr

But if you don't want to read my dumb, coffee-addled ramblings, basically my problem with Daredevil is that it's too gritty. There are other issues I have with it, but that's the biggest one.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#31082: Apr 21st 2015 at 1:29:41 AM

I assume JJ is going to have a different tone. of course David Tennant is there creepin' it up.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#31083: Apr 21st 2015 at 2:42:36 AM

[up][up][up]Argh, give a girl a warning that were more spoilers than I wanted to see about the movie. I thought this was one of the usual article, not something which describes scenes in detail!

JRPictures Since: Nov, 2010
#31084: Apr 21st 2015 at 7:23:09 AM

of course David Tennant is there creepin' it up.
Considering his character, it's very guaranteed

kkhohoho Since: May, 2011
#31085: Apr 21st 2015 at 7:26:28 AM

[up][up]Uh, yeah. My guess that it's going to be a tad more tame than DD for the majority of the series, but when they start getting into Jones' backstory and bring in the Purple Man, that's when things are going to get more f'ed up than DD ever was.

Or at least it'll be the case for me because, in my case, blood, gore, torture, etc.,; none of that really fazes me. What does faze me is a strong female superhero being brainwashed by a psychopath for a year and being forced to dress in skimpy clothing and watch as that psychopath rapes other women. F'ed-up stuff like that is what really gets me.(Though I'm still gonna' watch it.tongue)

edited 21st Apr '15 7:26:43 AM by kkhohoho

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
thebandragoness
#31087: Apr 21st 2015 at 7:48:53 AM

From reading the Jesscia Jones comics (Axis and The Pulse), I would say she's a pretty strong character who's clearly been screwed up by what happens to her, but ultimately doesn't let the trauma define her or ruin her life in the end. Her traumatic backstory feels necessary to the character, not like it was thrown in for shock value or anything *cough cough*

I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.
edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#31088: Apr 21st 2015 at 8:02:22 AM

And that probably makes all the difference between something being backstory and something just being exploitative.

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kkhohoho Since: May, 2011
#31089: Apr 21st 2015 at 8:05:33 AM

[up][up][up]Maybe, but that whole incident is a major part of her character and backstory; some of it's still going to show up. And given that, well, this is Netflix, and they can get away with more than the movies, part of me feels they might go all the way with it, in part because they feel they can.

edited 21st Apr '15 8:06:35 AM by kkhohoho

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#31092: Apr 21st 2015 at 8:53:03 AM

Sony's plans for Spider-man and Sinister Six revealed before Marvel deal.

Including Maximum Carnage, Spider-man 2099, Clone Saga, and a Kraven movie set before Amazing Spider-man 2 that really could have been the actual Amazing Spider-man 2 instead

http://www.spidermancrawlspace.com/2015/04/19/sonys-amazing-spider-man-franchise-plans-part-one-the-sequels/

And Sinister Six movie, lead by...Spider-man

http://www.spidermancrawlspace.com/2015/04/21/sonys-amazing-spider-man-franchise-plans-part-two-the-sinister-six-movie/

LE0Night Since: Jul, 2011
#31093: Apr 21st 2015 at 9:00:23 AM

Some really neat alternate takes on the AoU main cast, the Black Widow and Hawkeye ones in particular would be pretty cool to get official versions of.

edited 21st Apr '15 9:18:19 AM by LE0Night

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#31094: Apr 21st 2015 at 9:01:16 AM

[up]They've been making the rounds. Yeah, those are pretty great.

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#31095: Apr 21st 2015 at 9:56:04 AM

Argh, give a girl a warning that were more spoilers than I wanted to see about the movie.

I honestly didn't realize what spoilers were in the article. It all looked like the same stuff we already know and have been discussing.

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#31096: Apr 21st 2015 at 10:04:34 AM

I give Daredevil a pass on the torturing because, frankly, the show seems very, very aware of how fucked up it is, and doesn't try to cover its ass behind a veneer of "yes well it's okay when they're bad guys." (Granted, it's still far more effective than it should be, but.) Charlie spends a lot of time antagonizing over what, exactly, gives him the right to hurt people.

Plus, y'know, Captain America had a guy pushed off a building to get him to talk, and that was played for laughs, so.

I'm with you on the "way too much victimization of women" thing, though.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#31097: Apr 21st 2015 at 10:05:50 AM

In fairness the guy getting pushed off the building was never in serious danger of being harmed.

TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#31098: Apr 21st 2015 at 11:35:02 AM

Note: This is how Jewel AKA◊ Jessica Jones and the◊ Purple Man meet each other◊. This is her after a year of being his slave right before she's almost killed by the Avengers.

Jesus.

I really don't like how much of an ass the Purple Man is. And it probably doesn't help that I read his lines a la the 10th Doctor...

Then again, I do like the idea of him having JJ go after Daredevil as a way of connecting the two shows before the Defenders series, which will most definitely take forever.

Also, has anyone seen this?

TL;DR: they're Ant-Man billboards...for ants! [lol]

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#31099: Apr 21st 2015 at 11:36:18 AM

Cue theaters being flooded by ants and humans fleeing in panic. Marvel has ushered the antpocalypse.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#31100: Apr 21st 2015 at 11:41:25 AM

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/joss-whedon-calls-edgar-wrights-ant-man-the-best-script-marvel-ever-had-warns-of-serialized-moviemaking-20150421

Another thankfully less spoilery interview with Whedon. Shame about what happened to Ant Man. Also glad to know he's aware of the potential risk for Continuity Lockout.

edited 21st Apr '15 11:44:52 AM by AlleyOop


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