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[Edited by Fighteer]
Edited by Fighteer on Dec 15th 2022 at 9:55:58 AM
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I won't lie that got my blood pumping.
I am disappoint that Black Widow was not a black widow.
Also, I laughed at the art where everyone but Rocket was a raccoon, and Rocket was a human.
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Love is Love is Love
That armor looks like Tony didn't finish painting it.
My various fanfics.
It's odd, but my favorite part of that whole thing was just the Avengers logo with Spider-Man's shooting a web at it right at the end.
Sometimes it's the little things that are the coolest.
edited 6th Mar '15 11:49:26 AM by KnownUnknown
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
I wonder if they'll give him that in Civil War.
Also, the closest we're likely to get to Thor vs. Wolverine.
edited 6th Mar '15 11:54:48 AM by comicwriter
Joss talked a little about the Vision.
... Really not liking the odds for Rhodey or the newbies right now. 
Still, it's great to see Hawkeye getting more screentime, he's been painfully Out of Focus thus far.
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
Why not? And which newbies are we talking about here?
Because I can't shake the feeling that at least one Avenger or Avenger affiliate is going to die.
And if someone's going to die, there's a much better chance it's going to be somebody not heavily featured in marketing or discussions about future movies.
Since all six plus Falcon and Fury have more movie appearances confirmed, it's basically down to Rhodey, the Twins, and Vision. Or maybe Maria Hill.
edited 6th Mar '15 7:06:22 PM by Khfan429
If anyone does die, I'd expect it to be Rhodes. Falcon, the Twins, and Vision are too new.
I'm pretty sure Cap is going to be the one that dies. Killing Rhodey would also have some pretty big Unfortunate Implications.
It's worth noting that Whedon already said a while back it's really unlikely that he'd get to kill off a hero in this movie because this is not just his project but a shared universe where everyone has potential to get used somewhere else, so it'd be a lot harder to get clearance to kill an established character.
I imagine War Machine is safe if for no other reason than right now Civil War looks stacked in Cap's favor and they'll need SOMEONE on Team Stark. Plus as the ![[nja]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/user_ninja_2074.png "[nja]"){kind=small}
'ed comment above me points out that'd be awkward for a bunch of other reasons.
edited 6th Mar '15 7:09:53 PM by comicwriter
Rhodey is as much a soldier as Steve is.
Destroyer of Worlds
Yes but Chris Evans seems like he's about ready to leave to pursue directing unlike Don Cheadle.
Plus killing War Machine would be a cop out from a narrative standpoint. Seriously, he has no connection to anyone other than Stark so acting like his death would be a huge emotional deal in the context of an Avengers movie (when he wasn't even in the first one) would be a cheat.
and are more valid reasons than Unfortunate Implications.
That is a valid reason. Marvel would have to be pretty stupid to pull this shit again after what happened on Agents of Shield.
The "Reality" gif makes me think they're fighting invisible ninja. And that amuses me.
Actually AOS is exactly what I'm talking about when I say it'd be a narrative cop out. Tripp had basically become wallpaper and didn't really interact with anyone other than Coulson, May, or Skye. So when they had the entire team close to weeping and talking about how much they loved Tripp and thought of him like a brother despite no onscreen indications they were even friends, it rang really hollow.
If they tried to retcon in some stuff about Rhodey being best buds with Hawkeye or Thor to give impact to his death, it'd ring just as hollow.
edited 6th Mar '15 7:22:55 PM by comicwriter
Captain America would have been an example for many people, and I could see it as Rhodey being inspired to join the military through Captain America. He may not be Coulson Levels in fandom, but I could see him looking up to the example Rogers set and would jump at the chance to fight along side him. If written well, I could even see Rhodey taking a bullet for him.
Plus, Coulson's death in the Avengers didn't ring hollow, even though the most interaction he'd had with anyone was Stark. And even then, the only other Avengers he interacted with prior to the Avengers were Thor and Hawkeye (although that conversation was so minimalist and unimportant that I'm hesitant to count it).
I don't recall people calling foul or hollow at his death, even though most of the punch came from the interactions and development he'd received in that movie.
Destroyer of Worlds
Double post.
edited 6th Mar '15 7:31:42 PM by MadSkillz
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