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nuclearneo577 from My computer. Since: Dec, 2009
#1: Jul 31st 2011 at 3:38:36 AM

If so, why was this locked to turn it from a trope to an example and a picture?

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#2: Jul 31st 2011 at 6:01:28 AM

That's not really Example As Thesis. The definition is very clearly stated in the first sentence. You could cut the entire demonstration and still have the definition.

And it was made exampleless and locked because subtext can be found everywhere if you want to see it. It is both a truly omnipresent trope and incredibly subjective.

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IronLion Since: Feb, 2010
#3: Aug 27th 2011 at 1:49:13 AM

I don't think the example works very well at all. As someone unfamiliar with the work, I fail to see how one could infer most of this so-called subtext from the dialogue.

nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#4: Aug 27th 2011 at 1:56:12 AM

I agree. I'm also inclined to object on principle to using a specific real example like that and not some Alice and Bob thing, if we do need to put a demonstration in there. Mentioning specific works in a description, unless they are actual Trope Makers or such, is almost always Fan Myopia of some kind.

Roxor Only Sane Fox from Land Down Under Since: Jan, 2001
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#5: Aug 27th 2011 at 11:19:24 AM

The whole article needs a rewrite. As it stands now, it does nothing to inform me about what subtext is, how it can be present in the first place, or how it is read and written.

What we need here is detail about all aspects of it. From what little there is now, I can only guess that it's the literary counterpart to Steganography.

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chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#6: Aug 27th 2011 at 11:30:04 AM

According to the history, it used to be a straight-forward article, but something happened that led to a lock and Fast Eddie changed it to its current state.

We have to explore the other kinds of subtext besides the sexual ones. For example, there is that one scene in a Redwall book called Martin the Mouse, when two formal friends act causally during their reunion, hiding their true intentions to attack each other from everybody else. There's also that one scene in The Importance Of Being Earnest where the two fiancees of Earnest meet and it ends with this.

In short, a conversation looks friendly in the surface, but they're sending a more malicious message to each other underneath.

edited 27th Aug '11 11:30:31 AM by chihuahua0

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