TV Tropes Org

Forums

Deadlock Clock: 5th Apr '12 11:59 PM
search forum titles
google site search
Total posts: [160]
1
 2  3  4  5  6 ... 7

Not what it sounds like: Capital City get usage counts

 1 Ghilz, Fri, 22nd Jul '11 2:00:13 PM from The Moon. Or Canada. Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Fight It Out!
Capital City is horribly named, because the trope does not describe a Capital City, but rather a Metropolis / Global City. The trope is for a particularly important, large city in a setting. That city does not need to be a center of government, which is what a Capital City IS.

This leads to weird example like where in Eberron, Sharn is an example of Capital City despite the fact that Wroat is the real Capital city...

edited 22nd Jul '11 2:02:06 PM by Ghilz

 2 Bobby G, Fri, 22nd Jul '11 2:41:52 PM from the Silvery Tay
Lurker
Yeah. This should be called Metropolis or something similar and Capital City should be about actual capital cities. There can be overlap, but they're still distinct concepts.

 4 Deboss, Fri, 22nd Jul '11 6:01:16 PM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
Major City? Metropolis is the name of a work, but I think society ganked the name from it. Not sure, not an etymologist.
 5 Madrugada, Fri, 22nd Jul '11 6:13:51 PM Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
Nope, it was in use long before the film.

metropolis: (from Gk. metropolis "mother city" (from which others have been colonized), from meter "mother" + polis "city") Meaning "chief town or capital city of a province" is first attested 1580s.

'He strutted across the bedroom, his hard manhood pointing the way' sounds like he owns a badly named seeing-eye dog. 'Sit, Hard Manhood!
 6 Omega Kross, Fri, 22nd Jul '11 6:33:36 PM from Nosgoth Relationship Status: Mu
 7 Madrugada, Fri, 22nd Jul '11 6:50:49 PM Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
That means "huge city". This doesn't have to be big, just really important.
'He strutted across the bedroom, his hard manhood pointing the way' sounds like he owns a badly named seeing-eye dog. 'Sit, Hard Manhood!
 8 Omega Kross, Fri, 22nd Jul '11 7:02:37 PM from Nosgoth Relationship Status: Mu
Vae Victus
Errr.....

First line of description:

In role-playing games, the biggest city in the game.

edited 22nd Jul '11 7:02:56 PM by OmegaKross

 9 Madrugada, Fri, 22nd Jul '11 7:08:52 PM Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
But a megalopolis isn't simply the biggest city. It's an objectively huge city. Billings is the largest city in Montana, but it's not a megalopolis by any means.

Megalopolis:

1. A very large city.

2. A region made up of several large cities and their surrounding areas in sufficient proximity to be considered a single urban complex.

'He strutted across the bedroom, his hard manhood pointing the way' sounds like he owns a badly named seeing-eye dog. 'Sit, Hard Manhood!
 10 Omega Kross, Fri, 22nd Jul '11 7:13:02 PM from Nosgoth Relationship Status: Mu
Vae Victus
If a city was the biggest city in the setting, that would make it objectively huge by virtue of the fact that it's the biggest one wouldn't it?
Unless you had an entire planet like Montana.

Unless the equivalent of Billings there wouldn't fit the trope.

 12 shimaspawn, Sat, 23rd Jul '11 5:55:41 AM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
The largest city in a RP setting can be 2000 people. I wouldn't call that a megalopolis.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
 13 Xtifr, Sat, 23rd Jul '11 2:07:14 PM Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
We already have Mega City, which is not this trope. I think Megalopolis would be too confusingly close to that, as well as being a pre-existing term that also doesn't match this trope.

What about Global City? The article even says that's what The Other Wiki calls it. If you're afraid that will be confused with City Planet, then maybe just The Big City? Bright Lights Big City? Commerce City? Biggus Citius? Bigopolis? They Named It Twice? (Warning: some of these suggestions may be more serious than others.)

OT: I'd also take move or remove the first sentence of the article. This is clearly not (just) a role-playing game trope, although it gives us a hint about how this trope started.
"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
 14 shimaspawn, Sat, 23rd Jul '11 2:12:08 PM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
I like The Big City.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
 15 Louie W, Sun, 24th Jul '11 10:33:46 AM from Babycowland
Loser
There is now a single proposition rename crowner for this trope here.
Capital City found in: 136 articles, excluding discussions.

This title has brought 35 people to the wiki from non-search engine links since 20th FEB '09.
"irhgT nm0w tehre might b ea lotof th1nmgs i dont udarstannd, ubt oim ujst goinjg to keepfollowing this pazth i belieove iN !!!!!1 d
 16 shimaspawn, Sun, 24th Jul '11 10:51:10 AM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
I hooked the crowner.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
 17 Louie W, Tue, 2nd Aug '11 4:36:30 PM from Babycowland
Loser
Given the overwhelming support a rename in the single proposition crowner, there is now an alternative titles crowner for this trope here. Feel free to add names as you wish.
"irhgT nm0w tehre might b ea lotof th1nmgs i dont udarstannd, ubt oim ujst goinjg to keepfollowing this pazth i belieove iN !!!!!1 d
 18 Camacan, Tue, 2nd Aug '11 7:07:20 PM from Australiatown
I find Global City much too easy to confuse with City Planet.

edited 3rd Aug '11 4:37:53 AM by Camacan

 19 Ghilz, Tue, 2nd Aug '11 9:13:42 PM from The Moon. Or Canada. Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Fight It Out!
I don't like The Big City. To me it brings for the image of someone in a rural area refering to the closest urban center. Or stuff like Town Mouse And Country Mouse.
 20 Xtifr, Wed, 3rd Aug '11 1:54:28 AM Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
[up]That's more-or-less what it is. The Big City that everyone around calls the big city. In most games, it'll be the only city. Other settlements will more likely be villages. The Big City is Exactly What It Says on the Tin.

Think Ankh-Morpork.

The Metropolis is a terrible option, though, as everyone will mistake it for that city where Superman lives.

edited 3rd Aug '11 1:59:35 AM by Xtifr

"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
 21 Ghilz, Wed, 3rd Aug '11 1:56:48 AM from The Moon. Or Canada. Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Fight It Out!
Metropolis is a terrible option, though, as everyone will mistake it for that city where Superman lives.

It's the actual word!

But what I mean is, The Big City brings to (my) mind stories about rural people meeting urban people, etc, etc. It reminds me of Hot Fuzz and the locals saying that Sanford is not the big city, there's no murders here. While the trope is truly about the metropolis of a setting.
 22 Xtifr, Wed, 3rd Aug '11 2:04:39 AM Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
No, it doesn't have to be a Metropolis (though it can be). It just has to be the biggest city around. And I'm really still not sure what your objection is. It can have the connotations of being viewed from a rural setting, sure, but then so can this trope. And that's hardly the only thing The Big City means (phrase or trope).

edited 3rd Aug '11 2:12:09 AM by Xtifr

"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.

Metropolis: 1. Any large, busy city. 2. The chief, and sometimes capital, city of a country, state or region.

I think it fits. I certainly don't think of Superman's Metropolis when the title has a The at the front.

Personally, The Ankh-Morpork is appealing to me as a Discworld fan, but it wouldn't work as a name at all.

edited 3rd Aug '11 2:26:19 AM by redlar

I laugh in the face of suffering.
 24 Ghilz, Wed, 3rd Aug '11 2:41:40 AM from The Moon. Or Canada. Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Fight It Out!
[up] That's not even discounting that this is an RPG trope (according to the description) and Discworld ain't Primarily one.

Might as well go with The Waterdeep, The Neverwinter or The Sharn or The Greyhawk or The Sigil but those would be just as bad as character named trope. Really preferring The Metropolis

edited 3rd Aug '11 2:42:03 AM by Ghilz

 25 Xtifr, Wed, 3rd Aug '11 2:58:34 AM Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
If it's called The Metropolis, it will be misused.

I think it's silly to limit this to video games, but that's a separate discussion.

The Chief City (straight from your dictionary) is a great suggestion. (I actually like most of the suggestions. The only ones I actually dislike are The Metropolis, Global City and Megalopolis.)

edited 3rd Aug '11 2:59:44 AM by Xtifr

"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.

Alternative Titles: Capital City 2
15th Apr '12 5:44:08 AM
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the title will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative titles.
At issue:
Total posts: 160
1
 2  3  4  5  6 ... 7


TV Tropes by TV Tropes Foundation, LLC is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License.
Permissions beyond the scope of this license may be available from thestaff@tvtropes.org.
Privacy Policy