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Baff Since: Jul, 2011
#51: Jul 22nd 2011 at 5:01:05 PM

[up]So a political assassination is an act of terrorism?

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#52: Jul 22nd 2011 at 6:30:45 PM

[up] Depends on whether the primary purpose of the assasination is to eliminate that political figure or to strike fear into the others. In the first case, it isn't.

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#53: Jul 22nd 2011 at 6:59:30 PM

Usually an assassination isn't carried out like a gangland hit. Its there to kill the person more often than not.

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#54: Jul 22nd 2011 at 7:07:13 PM

Thread Hop: because they don't want to get sued I think. Or the officials will stop talking to them.

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#56: Jul 23rd 2011 at 12:28:17 AM

Whilst I'm not sure that this is in any "official" definition, to me terrorism implies a group seeking to promote a political cause of some kind through creating terror and fear. I'm not sure a lone individual could ever qualify. Lee Harvey Oswald wasn't a terrorist - he acted alone (conspiracy theories to one side) and it's not clear he was trying to create fear as such. A lot of lone gunmen or bombers are as much motivated by being generally pissed off with life or society as any ideology.

The uncertainty about who committed this terrible atrocity, and why, explains the fact that it isn't being labelled terrorism yet.

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#57: Jul 23rd 2011 at 1:25:53 AM

We can't be sure politics was a motive at this point. Maybe the guy just wanted to make Jodie Foster like him. tongue

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#58: Jul 23rd 2011 at 2:55:05 AM

It wasn't just an assasination attempt: he set a bomb which killed seven and shot ten people at a political partys youth camp. To me at least the second strike sounds like terrorism.

Watch what you are implying. Not all Muslims are terrorists, and not all terrorists are Muslims. And besides, it might just be one Psychopath who did so when he perceived Satan telling him to do so through his dog, or something of the sort.
I didn't read it as the OP saying Muslims Are Terrorists or Terrorists Are Muslims. I read it as the OP commenting on how the media is less hesitant to call a muslim bomber or shooter a terrorist.

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#59: Jul 23rd 2011 at 3:07:16 AM

I always thought it was the reverse. If it is a white guy, they're less likely to call it terrorism.

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#60: Jul 23rd 2011 at 4:04:42 AM

I think that it's just a trend. Over the years they've become less quick to drag out the T-word.

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#61: Jul 23rd 2011 at 4:17:03 AM

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Especially as the terrorists themselves are changing, away from Organised groups like The IRA and ETA, to "franchises" like al-Qaeda and lone people and loosely-bound groups that share a view.

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#62: Jul 23rd 2011 at 4:18:11 AM

For what it's worth, according to this journalist currently in Norway, the suspect has been charged with "acts of terrorism".

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#63: Jul 23rd 2011 at 7:40:44 AM

That's an accusation. It does not imply that it was the fact. Accusations of this kind are made to rally people around someone to blame.

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#64: Jul 23rd 2011 at 8:39:50 AM

This deserved to be call a "terrorist attack" more than many attacks against US soldiers in Iraq. Unfortunately "terrorist" is loosing of it's original meaning, and applied as roughly meaning "armed Muslim".

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JosefBugman Since: Nov, 2009
#65: Jul 23rd 2011 at 9:44:25 AM

Oddly enough, according to someone in the Norway thread from Norway, this IS being called a terror attack.

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#66: Jul 23rd 2011 at 11:11:41 AM

"Terrorism" is vague. That's about the only reason I could think of.

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Baff Since: Jul, 2011
#67: Jul 23rd 2011 at 10:20:24 PM

[up][up] The Norway thread form Norway? Where is that? In the Departmentof Redundancy Department perhaps?

edited 23rd Jul '11 10:20:55 PM by Baff

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#68: Jul 23rd 2011 at 11:48:10 PM

To avoid hysteria.

Also, they don't want to be wrong, or jump to conclusions.

...are we talking about the same news companies?

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#69: Jul 24th 2011 at 12:16:17 AM

For what it's worth, I believe they called it a terror attack on CNN yesterday evening and today, although they're alternating between that and just "attack" or "shooting".

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#70: Jul 24th 2011 at 1:20:34 AM

Read in todays newspaper the headcount has gone up from 17 to 92. Apparently he shot 85 instead of 10.

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Baff Since: Jul, 2011
#71: Jul 24th 2011 at 5:40:15 PM

Found this article. Might as well post before this thread fades... http://www.slate.com/id/2299959/

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#72: Jul 24th 2011 at 7:11:06 PM

[up] 68

They can be very inconsistent.

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