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ShadowAbyss Since: Dec, 2010
#8026: Oct 17th 2016 at 9:15:27 AM

I think it is similar enough to be called a Digimon season for me, even if they don't actually use the term and all the creatures are brand new. But when you really think about it, all of these new things, including the level ranks, are pretty much the same as always and they only changed the names. Same vehicle, new paint job.

So far, the only major departutre is the fact an app needs to combine with another in order to get past their standard grades, but again, when you really think about it, we already had this kind of thing before. So, I don't see why it should be seen as a completely different show.

However, if you think seeing it as some entirely new show will make it easier for you to watch, go ahead. Do what makes you feel more confortable, I won't judge.

edited 17th Oct '16 9:16:23 AM by ShadowAbyss

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#8027: Oct 17th 2016 at 10:17:23 AM

It's definitely different in terms of tone, but I think the emphasis on partnership and exploring the aspects of how digital technology and the fantastic intersect are undeniably Digimon at their core.

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#8028: Oct 18th 2016 at 4:40:21 AM

Watched Appmon Episode 3. There's a lot more set up with Haru and Gatchmon now having a tangible goal in obtaining the Seven Codes (It's such a JRPG plot, it's fitting that it's introduced in the JRPG episode), Rei and his partner competing with them and Cameramon still being a threat.

RPG shenanigans were fun though it was weird to see the strategy guide being provided on the official website. Haru being totally enthused by a crappy RPG reminds me of how I react to some games lol.

I think it's appropriate that Haru keeps most of the Appmon as his partners and interacts with them since it draws a parallel with how people use multiple apps in real life. Plus it brings a new dynamic to the Digimon anime where one character interacts with multiple Digimon partners in the real world.

The way the Seven-Codes plot is set up reminds me a lot of MMBN, since they both have codes as macguffins in the internet lying around which people in the real world are trying to find, only with the villains in the latter wanting them and the good guys needing to find the former.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#8029: Oct 18th 2016 at 9:15:38 AM

I'm wondering when the other Appmon / Human pairs will be introduced.

Also, who is cameramon's partner? Considering how he acted at the end of the first episode, I'm guessing Haru's supposed best friend Yujin. That dude is pretty suspicious.

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#8030: Oct 18th 2016 at 9:35:11 PM

I don't think Yujin's the partner of Cameramon because if he was then why would he be spying on Haru and Gatchmon himself at the end of the first episode when he could've just sent Cameramon to do the spying.

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#8031: Oct 19th 2016 at 2:51:32 AM

Because he was right there at the time? He can't be near Haru constantly and it would look suspicious if he bolted with Haru every time a 'mon started something.

lgcruz Since: Feb, 2013
#8032: Oct 19th 2016 at 1:47:19 PM

So i'm not sure people are aware here, but we already know the names of the god level appmons:

Gaiamon (creation) Haru's god level, obtained with globemon + charismon

Hadesmon (change) Rei's god level, revivemon + biomon

Poseidomon (invincible) Eri's god level, oujamon + beautymon

Uranusmon (awakening) Asuka's god level, entamon + fakemon

Deusmon (almighty) unknown, Warudamon + Cometmon

Rebootmon (reboot) game protagonist, Bootmon + Shutmon

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#8033: Oct 20th 2016 at 4:18:21 PM

So, I have to admit something.

Despite saying that explanations about the 02 kids will have to happen, I'm really worried that the writers are so focused on keeping them out of the spotlight and excluding them that they'll pull a Taiki and Tagiru and make the absolute worst choice of not bothering to explain things at all, maybe even not until the final part of the final movie.

I don't want to think they'll do that. They have so many eps left (there are at least three more movies to go) but I have to admit my faith is low all of a sudden.

They really should have dealt with this earlier so we could focus on what's really going on. I know this is supposed to be about the original team, but there are so many ways they could have handled the situation with the 02 kids that the fact that they are deliberately refusing to even try is worse then if they'd just done it badly.

C'mon writers. Get your shit together, or this whole thing is gonna pull the narrative down.

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BigBlackBangBro Since: Sep, 2016
#8034: Oct 21st 2016 at 10:00:57 AM

[up]It's interesting to think about Adventure kids not noticing the 02 kids have gone missing. Guess it just shows while theybste friends all 12 of them aren't attached to the hip.

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lgcruz Since: Feb, 2013
#8035: Oct 21st 2016 at 2:37:12 PM

[up]Did you see any of them mention Ryo in 02? Ken remembers him after the dark spore ceases it's effect on him, but the adventure children had no problems on that front and yet not a word about their dead fellow tamer (ryo was never chosen really)

Also appmon episode 4 in less than 30 minutes, this one will have the first major battle:

Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#8036: Oct 21st 2016 at 8:04:01 PM

Appmon is reminding me a lot of digimon young hunters, but with a less annoying protag.

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#8037: Oct 22nd 2016 at 12:29:06 AM

Pretty much, although the mechanics are going to be rather different. This one has power levels delineated by successive Fusion Dances instead of some arbitrary limits set by some old geezer with red eyes.

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#8038: Oct 22nd 2016 at 5:50:10 AM

Can you guys identify the Digimon in the five rows of this pic? I cannot recognize most of them. (For context, this is a fan-made evolutionary lineup.) I'm especially interested in knowing who the second Digimon in the fourth row is; she looks like a female version of Beelzebumon.

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#8039: Oct 22nd 2016 at 6:17:15 AM

The Digimon who looks like a female version of Beelzubumon is Beel Starmon.

All the first Digimon of each row are evolutionary variants of Aegiomon's evolution, Aegiochusmon.

The first row of Digimon is the Mervamon evolutionary line. Second row of Digimon are Bancho Lilymon and Rosemon. Third row has Jet Silphymon, Crusadermon, and some Digimon I don't recognize. Fourth row has aforementioned Beel Starmon and Ophanimon Falldown Mode. Last row has Junomon and Venusmon.

I like the intent and attempt at parallels with Jupitermon for this fan-made evolutionary line but the fact whoever made this decided to ignore Ceresmon for the plant line is baffling

edited 22nd Oct '16 6:23:18 AM by Nouct

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#8040: Oct 22nd 2016 at 7:46:58 AM

Appmon is reminding me a lot of digimon young hunters, but with a less annoying portage.

Without a doubt. I think this is the series Young Hunters should have been. I don't even care about who the hero would have been (Tagiru sucks, but Character Development can do wonders for someone).

As much as I hate Young Hunters and that scene stealing piece of shit, what I really hate is how the series never had a chance to be it's own thing, and was forced into the Young Hunters Brand instead of just being separate from it.

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#8041: Oct 22nd 2016 at 9:59:00 AM

[up][up] Nice. Now if I could just figure out how to neatly add in text boxes that names each of those Digimon...

BTW, the Digimon you don't recognize is QueenChessmon.

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Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#8042: Oct 22nd 2016 at 4:21:30 PM

It kinda reminds me of both young hunters and Xros wars now that I think about it young hunters with them being on earth going into a side dimension to beat the villains, and Xros Wars in that the mons fuse to power up, and they have to collect the 7 codes

dood9780 Half-Demon Dude In A Bizarre World from The Vortex World Since: Mar, 2014
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#8043: Oct 24th 2016 at 8:28:33 AM

Catched up to the latest episode of Appmon!

So it seems Cameramon has a partner but we only get to see a black silhouette for a few seconds

And next episode we get to meet the next main characters. (The pink haired girl and the Veemon-lookalike)

Also, There was a dog with a Dragon Ball-based costume!

edited 24th Oct '16 8:30:35 AM by dood9780

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#8044: Oct 24th 2016 at 9:11:35 AM

On a different note... Am I the only one who facepalmed when that one Digimon Adventure movie had Hikari's Angewomon digivolve to Holydramon instead of something actually angel-based, and consequentially invoked Fanon Discontinuity on that part in favor of having her proper Mega-level digivolution be Ofanimon?

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ShadowAbyss Since: Dec, 2010
#8045: Oct 24th 2016 at 11:22:47 AM

I don't think that movie is actually supposed to be part of the main Adventure universe. It is full of continuity mistakes and this very site lists it as a Non-Serial Movie. But thay doesn't matter because its events will have to be rewritten in Tri anyway when it is Tailmon's turn to reach Mega.

And personally, I always prefered Ophanimon over this form anyway, so I would actually be quite happy if they decide to throw the giant pink fluffy dragon away because I could never take it seriously.

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#8046: Oct 24th 2016 at 11:33:52 AM

You know what would be really cool? Having a Devimon and a Lady Devimon that aren't vile-to-the-core villains, maybe even as antiheroic guardians of human partners. The very first Beelzebumon we got had pulled a Heel–Face Turn in the same show it debuted in, so we have precedent.

Needless to say, it would be interesting to see how Takeru handles the very idea of a Digimon that's physically identical to the one that caused his partner to pull a Heroic Sacrifice early in his first adventure in the Digital World, yet is not a sadistic diabolical monster (OK, so he may be sadistic, but only when fighting evil enemies!) that desires to bring havoc and ruin upon the Digital World as well as the Human World. Heck, what if Hikari stands between him and the not-evil Devimon, insisting that everyone deserves at least one chance to prove their goodness?

edited 24th Oct '16 11:38:28 AM by MarqFJA

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MileRun Since: Jan, 2001
#8047: Oct 24th 2016 at 12:35:19 PM

I'm still curious over how digimon can function without proper names. How do you single out an individual Angemon if every Angemon in the world looks mostly identical and answers solely to "Angemon"? Digimon have been shown to form fully functional societies with multiples of various species all living together. What if the leader of a digimon jungle village got word that Kuwagamon was planning to go on a killing spree? Would he have to kill every Kuwagamon in the village just to be safe?

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#8048: Oct 24th 2016 at 12:47:36 PM

Yeah, that's one thing that I really hated in the franchise. Digimon that are unique within a particular setting (e.g. the Four Holy Beasts in Digimon Tamers and the Three Great Angels in Digimon Frontier) could be given a pass, but even that runs into the same problem if it's more of a "there can only be one of this kind of Digimon at any given time, but multiple individual Digimon can succeed each other in being that kind" scenario (e.g. Seraphimon either dies of the Digimon equivalent of old age or due to disease/murder, and a HolyAngemon digivolves into a new Seraphimon and takes the previous one's position in the trinity).

edited 24th Oct '16 12:48:54 PM by MarqFJA

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#8049: Oct 25th 2016 at 2:38:21 AM

Watching Appmon episode 4

  • It's weird that they suddenly dropped the real life sychronization in dates in favor of a Halloween episode. Chalking it up to Japan's obsession with holidays, but I wonder if they're going to keep the dates from Halloween onwards or this is a one-off thing.
  • Who set up the computer in that abandoned building for Cameramon to talk to???
  • Haru's really young to start reading about the singularity.
  • And here's where Gatchmon reveals just how much he knows as a search engine. Now I wonder if any of the other Appmon have this kind of relationship with the real world, where they know what something is but weren't able to actually see it for themselves.
  • ...Haru's really lax about letting Gatchmon go.
  • Gatchmon looks so adorable in that costume. He's even more adorable eating sweets.
  • Ahh there's that Digimon obsesssion with food that we've all come to know
  • Remind me again why a non Apprealized Gatchmon needs to travel around on a chip when literally every other Appmon we've seen don't need them?
  • I, I don't think that's how digital cameras work but okay.
  • WELP
  • Okay how far does Leviathan's reach go if Cameramon has human bodyguards at his beck and call
  • Oh it was a trap all along
  • And now begins the citywide manhunt for Haru for a really vague prize
  • This episode's really tapping into the Paranoia Fuel for Cameramon
  • That's not a costume Haru are you even trying.
  • Haru you don't need to apologize no seriously you don't need to
  • I just realized the cameras in Cameramon's right hand are positioned to resemble a hand
  • Cameramon's got his own partner and yep, time for fusion ,without name repetition this time thank god.
  • Scorpmon affecting the real world with his attacks is a pretty effective demonstration of his power compared to DoGatchmon.
  • oh hey it's the mustache man again
  • The cgi search animation for DoGatchmon is really cool.
  • Mienumon's CGI boobs look really dumb.

The Halloween stuff felt really superfluous to the plot and so did the Haru needs to make up with Gatchmon for what he did subplot. The main fight with Cameramon was good though. It seems really early to bring in a new antagonist but the anime's pacing's been good so far, mixing up conflicts and trying to make things a little bit different with every episode.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#8050: Oct 25th 2016 at 3:37:08 AM

Ophanimon was designed as a counterpart for Seraphimon and used as Kari's Gatomon final form in all her appareances after her introduction to the franchise. Thing is, she was introduced to the franchise in 2001, after 02 was over, and thus she appeared as an evolution in Digimon Battle Spirit 1.5, and the Adventure PSP game.

So, it is the final form for Bandai, but not sure about what Toei may do. It works better than Holydramon, who, if it hadn't gotten a 20 second appareance in the most inconsequential movie set in that universe, would go the Plesiomon way no matter what.

Ophanimon and Vikemon work far better than Holydramon and Plesiomon for the individuals involved.


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