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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#33351: Mar 24th 2018 at 11:10:17 AM

Katara can also turn water into ice. I'm pretty sure Lapis has never been shown to be able to do that...right?

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#33352: Mar 24th 2018 at 11:11:11 AM

Only when fused with Jasper as I recall

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#33353: Mar 24th 2018 at 11:12:34 AM

And I just remembered that Lapis can also fly with water, which Katara can't do either.

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#33354: Mar 24th 2018 at 11:18:04 AM

Yeah. Katara is dead in a nanosecond in this one.

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#33355: Mar 24th 2018 at 11:31:31 AM

I feel like whoever brought this up should have been able to tell how lopsided it was.

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#33356: Mar 24th 2018 at 11:32:28 AM

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Uh yeah,it is lopsided..oops.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#33357: Mar 24th 2018 at 11:38:08 AM

It's really hard not to come up with a lopsided death battle, though I've tried.

Getting fights that are both thematically appropriate and not total stomps on one side is rather tough.

I still want Hiei vs Hitsugaya and Athena vs Hinata myself.

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#33358: Mar 24th 2018 at 11:52:18 AM

Hiei destroys poor hitsugaya.

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#33359: Mar 24th 2018 at 11:57:29 AM

Conversely, would an Earthbender curbstomp the Gems?

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#33360: Mar 24th 2018 at 11:59:08 AM

[up][up]I guess so. Toshiro didn't have such a good win loss record, and the Dragon of the Darkness Flame alone makes Hiei a pretty heavy hitter.

Especially post 3 kings arc where he's supposed to be S class himself.

What about fight #2?

I also think I had some other ideas, but I can't remember them.

I do wonder how most other fighting game characters would fair against Hokuto or Nanto users as well.

edited 24th Mar '18 11:59:22 AM by HandsomeRob

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#33361: Mar 24th 2018 at 11:59:58 AM

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#33362: Mar 24th 2018 at 12:01:17 PM

> Conversely, would an Earthbender curbstomp the Gems?

Probably mildly inconvenience them at best,the avatar on the other hand,using all the elements on them at once would probably be more effective

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#33363: Mar 24th 2018 at 12:06:32 PM

So both Japan and America do weird things with adaptations then?

Good to know...well ok, I knew that already from what I heard of how they dubs the american transformers series, but still.

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#33364: Mar 24th 2018 at 12:25:39 PM

For Lapis, I'd pick either Mera from Aquaman or Fire Princess from Adventure for an opposites theme.

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#33365: Mar 24th 2018 at 6:19:02 PM

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Hiei destroys poor hitsugaya.
Is this factoring in Hitsugaya's perfected bankai?

edited 24th Mar '18 6:25:21 PM by Arawn999

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#33366: Mar 24th 2018 at 8:36:50 PM

We don't really see much of that, so we don't know what it can really do.

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#33367: Mar 24th 2018 at 8:47:12 PM

It puts him through puberty as I recall

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#33368: Mar 24th 2018 at 8:48:07 PM

First we would need a point of comparison between YYH and Bleach.

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#33369: Mar 24th 2018 at 9:13:05 PM

[up][up][up] We saw a lot more of what it could do than Ichigo's bankai, and they still used that.

Even looking at his shikai, Tōshirō's powers are stronger than one would think given his win-loss ratio. His fully unleashed bankai ages him to adulthood; lets him flash-freeze stuff by touching it or even with a simple wave of his hand, with anything that he freezes having all of its functions and abilities negated; and can use a technique called Shikai Hyōketsu to flash-freeze all matter or energy in front of him after four seconds of building up his power.

Speaking of Ichigo's bankai, just occurred to me that they mentioned that Ichigo was growing exponentially stronger with each battle but I don't recall them factoring that into calculating his power.

edited 24th Mar '18 9:26:53 PM by Arawn999

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#33370: Mar 24th 2018 at 9:35:43 PM

Huh. It's been a while so I'd forgotten some of that.

Still think the Dragon of the Darkness flame would whoop Hyorinmaru in elemental dragon fight.

It is supposed to be pretty much unstoppable.

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#33371: Mar 24th 2018 at 9:42:46 PM

Four seconds of charging up is a death sentence if you try to pull it on Hiei, who is fast enough to leave afterimages via pure speed. Hiei's also the son of an ice demon and has shown resistance to freezing before in his battle against one of the Four Saint Beasts.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#33372: Mar 24th 2018 at 9:50:12 PM

I don't know if DRAAAAGUUUHN-OF THE    DARHK-NESS    FLAAME vs Toshiro's Shikai and Bankai would end in Hiei's favor. It takes him a considerable amount of time charging up the attack and he usually telegraphs it.

The attack's been resisted by potent spiritual energy, but we never really see it used against anyone like Toshiro so whether the flash-freezing would even work against it is debatable. If the opponent is strong enough they can simple cleave the dragon in two, and Hiei's screwed if he doesn't absorb the dragon into himself.

[up] That said, Hiei is stupidly fast.

edited 24th Mar '18 9:56:54 PM by Soble

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#33373: Mar 24th 2018 at 10:06:13 PM

That he is.

And I'd forgotten how well he tanks ice. Guess Elemental Rock-Paper-Scissors isn't much of a factor for him (though that may be due to being half ice demon himself).

edited 24th Mar '18 10:07:24 PM by HandsomeRob

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TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#33374: Mar 24th 2018 at 11:51:21 PM

Granted, didn't Toshiro's complete Bankai just like...Allow him to completely remove the heat from his targets? I don't think any amount of ice resistance could match up to that.

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#33375: Mar 25th 2018 at 1:29:03 AM

We have no idea whether Hiei could survive that. It's entirely possible that his ice demon heritage would allow him to keep operating at... no heat... then, 0 degrees Kelvin?

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