DEATH BATTLE

They bypassed security and built an override for the batmobile

That is fascinating to me

• Lucius Fox: Mr. Wayne, if I've told you once, I've told you a thousand times: I can build you state of the art security, I can create impenetrable firewalls that even the NSA wouldn't be able to crack, but none of it does any good if you keep setting your password to "Batman". And no, "B@man" is not a clever substitute.

edited 17th Nov '17 11:59:05 AM by TobiasDrake

All this is making me think of LEGO Batman and Alfred putting the parental locks on the Batcomputer.

"What about 14mTh3Ni6ht ?"

edited 17th Nov '17 12:09:38 PM by Ghilz

So twenty issues into Spider-Man 2099 and Lyla doesn't seem to do much other than control Miguel's apartment. I don't know if hacking is even in her abilities.

Haven't seen Miguel have to contend with any invisible or cloaking enemies yet.

I things the big thing is that his talons are scary powerful, ripping through concrete or metal with ease. And his unstable molecule costume can even protect him somewhat from laser fire

What about in Spider-Man 2099 Vol. 2 and Vol. 3?

I'm reading nearly almost as fast as I can!

Reading Volume 3, Lyla is an artificial intelligence from the 22nd Century that can best be compared to JARVIS, FRIDAY, and KAREN from Iron Man and Spider Man Homecoming. She ran Miguel's lab at Parker Industries, is installed into his personal Web-Ware, and is the operating system for his upgraded Spider-Man suit. As for what she's capable of, she can project detailed holograms, record everything that goes on around her, scan technology and provide detailed schematics at a glance, and wirelessly transmit data long-distance, and wirelessly transmit herself across time (Issue 12 doesn't really make it clear exactly how she did that). And that's not an exhaustive list, either. Given what she did in Issue 24 of Volume 3, she would likely be able to hack into the Batcomputer fairly easily.

As for Miguel's upgraded suit, Peter outfitted it with state-of-the-art Parker Industries technology similar to his Spider-Armor Mk IV. It's made of unstable molecules like his old suit was, but has kevlar integrated on a molecular level to make it virtually indestructible; he can fire spider-tracers and explosive spider-saucers from his arms; his mask has an Iron Man-esque heads-up display with Lyla as its operating system, with an infrared vision mode; his boots have thrusters built in for short-range flight when combined with his "Light Byte" underarm webbing, and it has an active camouflage mode that lets it turn almost-completely invisible.

edited 21st Nov '17 1:31:55 AM by Arawn999

Damn. Boomstick drinks somewhere in the ballpark of 84 million liters of whiskey a year.

Okay. Seriously.

Watching Netflix's The Punisher right now and Frank has a Beard Of Sorrow and all of the angst in the world right now.

Please, next time they do a "suggest a fight" thing, please, everybody put in at least one vote for Frank Castle versus John Wick. Please, I really don't want to set fire to everyone's houses in a formation that, from up above, would conspicuously be read out as, "Coming up next onnnn Death Battle... John Wick vs Frank Castle."

Or Frank Castle vs Max Payne.

I don't care if it's one-sided. Brooding, white, ex-assassin tough guy with a dead family vs Brooding, white, ex-assassin with a dead family.

edited 22nd Nov '17 6:38:02 PM by Soble

Frank would murder them both so bad. Like, it's not even fair.

Would Frank vs. Judge Dredd be a more fair matchup, or would it still be hilariously unfair (in either direction)?

It's definitely closer, though I am not the most up to date on 2000 AD to say if Dredd can stomp the Punisher or vice versa, but they feel far more closely matched.

I'm not entirely certain Frank stomps John Wick.

The primary advantage Frank has is a 30 years plus history in comics to bloat his feats, because other than that they're fairly even in terms of skills.

That and actual scifi gadgets including a van with fucking guided missiles (And since John Wick's 2nd most known posession after "Dog" is "Car", you can count they'd include the Punisher's battle van for vehicles) and stuff he looted off Super Villains. He had a goblin glider and doc Ock's arms for a while which he kept shrunk with pym particles.

And that 30 year history includes him besting people with legit superhuman abilities on a fairly regular basis. He's managed to shoot both Spiderman and Daredevil and has caught Captain America's shield.

He even has a suit of Powered Armor.

edited 22nd Nov '17 7:11:00 PM by Ghilz

I was operating under the assumption we'd go with MAX Punisher. 616 Punisher just has access to too much weird shit to face up with a character from a (laws of physics-wise) mundane universe as John Wick.

edited 22nd Nov '17 7:08:30 PM by Gaon

Keep in mind that only rarely is supervillain tech any more effective than regular firearms. Frequently, it's significantly less. That's kinda what makes the Punisher so dangerous even in a world with supervillains.

Bullets are Boring, but Practical. They might not be as cool as a gun that shoots swords, but they're easy to use and will kill a person dead with minimal fuss. Lasers, freeze rays, robot arms, etc. are flashy and fun to watch, but the mundane bullet more often than not remains the apex of killing technology.

I'd also accept Max Payne vs John Wick.

Yes but counter point: Powered armor. Also Armored Van with missiles. Feels like it needs mentioning

Also, main point, if you strip it down to its basics. John's constantly trying to retire. Frank spends his time training, following a diet, and honing his skills (When he's not doing his usual murder elemental stuff). Frank spends his time, much like Batman, making sure he's always at his peak. John doesn't.

EDIT: The MAX version of the Punisher would be a fairer match, I admit.

edited 22nd Nov '17 7:20:22 PM by Ghilz

On John's defense, five years of retirement don't seem to have dulled him at all.

I'm still pretty sure the fight would be, at least, even.

John Wick vs Max Payne would go to Wick, probably. Max doesn't have access to stuff like Wick's bulletproof suit and doesn't have nearly as many feats outside of gunplay (while Wick once killed three men WITH A PENCIL. WITH A FUCKING PENCIL).

Plus it's sort of a plot point that Max is kind of a wreck that runs on pills and alcohol.

Outside of MAX Punisher the only character I can see being a worthy foe to John Wick is Agent 47.

Think we'll ever get Doctor Fate vs Doctor Strange?

Seems like a pretty obvious throw down if you ask me.

edited 22nd Nov '17 9:00:53 PM by HandsomeRob