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Whatever for?
State of Mind
Relevant
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Actually Relevant: Gen. John F. Campbell explains the situation concerning the airstrike that destroyed a hospital in Afghanistan.
He also advises against the further troop withdrawals the president had promised last year.
Clinton turns Benghazi investigation against Republicans. In a new ad, Clinton uses the remarks made by Congressman Kevin Mc Carthy, in which he uses Clinton's dipping poll numbers as proof the latest investigation is doing it's job, to blast back at her opponents, claiming they are wasting time, money, and perverting the system for their own partisan agendas.
Because Aszur got there?
A nice butterfly
Aszur is here. Everyone hide yo kids, hide yo wives.
It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
V
As others have mentioned:
America is the Religion.
Keep Rolling On
The law in the night
America as a religion boils down to whatever the other religions already do: worship a bunch of words written in ancient paper.
Why is so goddamn hard to separate religious beliefs from the political ones? Most of the idiocy you see in US politics (along my country) is related to politicians using their religious beliefs to create laws and rule a goddamn secular state.
Inter arma enim silent leges
Queen of Good Things, Honest
Because they believe in a principle of Absolute Good. They operate as agents of what they consider to be the highest authority, and as a mortal authority on Earth is it their responsibility to carry out that will. This is the fundamental danger of Absolute Good: it is a difficult position to argue against because Absolute Good is not subject to logic or reason or interpretation. It is not negotiable. It is absolute.
Believers in a principle of Absolute Good believe it is their responsibility to spread the Good. Not the moral concept of goodwill or acceptance, but the rule of Good. They have very specific rules they believe in that are ironclad; again, Absolute Good is not negotiable. If Absolute Good says it is a sin to wear pants on Tuesday, then it is a goddamn sin to wear goddamn pants on goddamn Tuesday. It doesn't have to make sense, it is a law of Absolute Good, and therefore it is absolutely true. Anything that contradicts Absolute Good is necessarily wrong by virtue of the fact that it contradicts Absolute Good.
edited 6th Oct '15 1:05:24 PM by TobiasDrake
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Pretty much. It was surreal when, while talking to a conservative pastor (the one that's protested the Hill Cumorah pageant, among other things), I tried explaining the concept of Gray-and-Grey Morality to him, and he was practically incapable of wrapping his head around it.
"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
Well, with moral relativism you run into a Morton'sFork. If morality is relative, then then there's no reason not to impose your views on others.
Indeed, you run into exactly the same problem: your views are always, absolutely right relative from your perspective.
edited 6th Oct '15 3:39:53 PM by Protagonist506
"Any campaign world where an orc samurai can leap off a landcruiser to fight a herd of Bulbasaurs will always have my vote of confidence"
I'm Ruthless.
I believe in Absolute Good. And Absolute Evil. And all shades of grey.
But I don't believe in a paper. I believe in the meaning of the words that are written on that damn paper. I believe in the values written on that paper.
SOME may believe in the paper just because is the paper, but everyone who is mature enough knows the paper is the way that we materialize and preserve our values and, that way, they can be transmitted from the next generation. Through the paper they will remember who we were and what we believed on, even after we cross the valley of the shadow.
And when I mean paper, this wiki may as well be the paper.
edited 6th Oct '15 3:42:12 PM by MeetTheNewBoss
You claim that God is opressing us, but I see you opressing others without needing a God.
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
The House is going to run a Planned Parenthood select committee now, run by Blackburn of Tennessee. Forget where i saw it.
House can do whatever it wants, they're not gonna be able to override a presidential veto.
The Potato's Choice
Chaotic Greedy
I usually refrain from posting just for this in OTC, but some times it's too egregious not to:
How did you manage to incorrectly use "of" instead of "have" while "have" was right there in the article title? Are you trying to summon the Rouge Angles of Satin?
edited 7th Oct '15 2:45:33 AM by Medinoc
"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
The Potato's Choice
I instinctively make all haves into ofs.
So yes, yes I am trying summon them.
Many were increasingly of the opinion that they'd all made a big mistake in coming down from the trees in the first place. - Douglas Adams
There are two types haves people. The ofs and the ofs nots.
In more depressing news, an 11-year-old boy killed his 8-year-old neighbor with a shotgun... apparently after arguing about puppies. It's exactly as stupid as it sounds, especially with the shotgun (either loaded or with ammo close by) kept in an unlocked closet.
Good heavens, just look at the time. It's Gun Debate O'Clock!
edited 7th Oct '15 8:36:17 AM by Luminosity
If everyone wrote words the way they said them...
Wel itd shur be eezier too reed stuhf.
A nice butterfly
Puppies: Adorable critters or accesories of murder?
Stay tuned to find out
edited 7th Oct '15 8:49:47 AM by Aszur
It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
Professional Forum Ninja
Jupiterian Local
Storing a gun (and ammo) unlocked, where your young child can easily get at it? Someone charge the father with negligent homicide, please.
Though I'm rather surprised (if gratified) to see that the boy is being charged with first degree murder. Eleven is old enough to know that if you point a gun at someone and pull the trigger, you could easily kill them. There may be extenuating circumstances (perhaps he thought it was unloaded, for example), but that can come out in trial.
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
a collection of small trees
Makes me wonder how much money was a motivator in this.
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Queen of Good Things, Honest
I don't think there's extenuating circumstances. In response to a heated argument, the boy went and retrieved the weapon, then returned to the scene, pointed it at her, and pulled the trigger.
This was pretty clearly a deliberate murder.
Yep. Could some of our U.K. tropers answer a question for me: how often do angry children shoot each other in the U.K.?
edited 7th Oct '15 11:48:05 AM by TobiasDrake
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I'm pretty sure angry British children don't have access to handguns
