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Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#84301: Sep 19th 2014 at 3:26:28 PM

Well, if you're in Insane Troll Logic land, then, yeah. The fences are technically not part of the ground but adornments of it. And, are therefore not part of the land and therefore, not free to use and the government's to maintain. QED. tongue

edited 19th Sep '14 3:26:58 PM by Euodiachloris

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#84302: Sep 19th 2014 at 8:02:43 PM

I thought he didn't even recognize the legitimacy of the government.

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Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#84303: Sep 19th 2014 at 8:11:38 PM

Since when did that ever stop ITL from finding a way to come to the conclusion "...so I don't have to pay!". <_<

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#84304: Sep 20th 2014 at 2:18:17 AM

Colorado Republican Senate candidate backs OTC birth control

Of course, there's still the little problem that he wants women to pay full price for it, but this is still a Republican talking about women without putting his foot in his mouth.

edited 20th Sep '14 2:21:52 AM by Ramidel

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#84305: Sep 20th 2014 at 10:57:34 AM

Fox News: ‘The Enemy Is Islamic,’ It’s Time to Start Profiling Muslims

We should have been profiling on September 12, 2001. Let’s take a trip down memory lane here: The last war this country won, we put Japanese-Americans in internment camps, we dropped nuclear bombs on residential city centers. So, yes, profiling would be at least a good start. It’s not on skin color, however, it’s on ideology: Muslim, Islamists, jihadist. That’s a good start but it’s only a start. We need to stop giving Korans to Gitmo prisoners, we need to stop having Ramadan and Iftar celebrations in the White House. We need to stop saying the enemy is not Islamic. They are.

I don't even have the words.

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#84307: Sep 20th 2014 at 11:14:22 AM

[up][up]A good portion of the country has been thinking that for awhile anyway, at least these guys finally stopped beating around the bush and just flat out said it.

Let the chips fall where they may. Extra points for implying the interment camps and dropping of the atomic bombs weren't at all morally questionable.

edited 20th Sep '14 11:14:38 AM by KBSL

Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#84308: Sep 20th 2014 at 11:14:58 AM

[up][up]When I saw the tab title as "Never Go..." I thought you had just rickrolled us.

Got a point though: 100% of the enemy is Muslim. They just fail logic forever by assuming the reverse to be true. There must be like a billion muslims note  in the world, and what, a few dozen thousand jihadists?

edited 20th Sep '14 11:15:15 AM by Medinoc

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Sledgesaul Since: Oct, 2011
#84309: Sep 20th 2014 at 11:26:59 AM

The sad part is that Fox News is treated as a legit outlet by Washington.

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#84310: Sep 20th 2014 at 11:44:35 AM

The vast, vast majority of Muslims are not jihadists.

However, there is a pretty strong correlation between being Muslim and holding some pretty radical, ultra-conservative views. For instance, a survey done in the UK in 2007 found that about a third of British Muslims (ages 16 - 24) thought that converting to another religion should be a crime punishable by death.

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#84311: Sep 20th 2014 at 11:54:26 AM

[up] ...And yet they live in a country that technically has a Christian state church?

Gotta love this world.

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#84312: Sep 20th 2014 at 11:57:57 AM

[up]

Generally the ire is focused on whose who are already Muslim and who change their religion; they don't necessarily object to Christianity as they object to people leaving Islam.

Still a dangerously backwards way of thinking, though.

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Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#84313: Sep 20th 2014 at 12:08:35 PM

And, note: it's a third. Two generations ago, the proportion for the age-group would have been almost certainly in the high 90s.

Just to supply a bit of perspective.

[down]Since when does "two generations ago" mean "parents"?

edited 20th Sep '14 1:06:50 PM by Euodiachloris

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#84314: Sep 20th 2014 at 12:15:52 PM

[up] I doubt it, given the poll says their parents were far less in favor of it

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#84315: Sep 20th 2014 at 12:17:58 PM

Yeah. Islam, as a religion, has areas where it's completely incompatible with Western ideals. But unless you're willing to just tear up the UDHR to enforce the UDHR, then throwing a billion people in internment camps has to be considered "not an option."

Now, if someone acts on that belief, then I believe that we should "all act according to national customs." This, of course, refers to an officer of the Raj banning the Indian practice of wife-burning in characteristically British style.

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#84316: Sep 20th 2014 at 12:40:32 PM

It's not inherent to Islam, it's inherent to an interpertation of Islam.

Don't forget that historically, some Christian movements have been just as brutal. The real problem is that recently, there's been a surge of extremism in Islam. If you go back to the 1960's Afghanistan was a destination for American tourists and people openly drank and went around without headscarves.

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#84317: Sep 20th 2014 at 12:42:29 PM

Almost like we sent a massive amount of funding, weaponry and trained a lot of Islamic extremists in the area...

Oh really when?
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#84318: Sep 20th 2014 at 12:44:40 PM

Or there was a massive invasion by some world power to the north...

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#84319: Sep 20th 2014 at 12:51:11 PM

While jihadists may overwhelmingly be Muslims, it's mind-bogglingly ignorant to claim that they represent a significant threat to the world at large. Orders of magnitude more people die from treatable diseases, starvation, car crashes, or at the hands of their own governments than die to terrorists.

Frankly, Fox News' wealthy sponsors have been responsible for more human suffering than all the terrorists in all of history put together.

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#84320: Sep 20th 2014 at 1:04:43 PM

Yeah, the current surge of Islamic extremism is very, very recent. Like, a handful of decades.

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#84321: Sep 20th 2014 at 1:08:12 PM

It's very much a post-WWII phenomenon.

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#84324: Sep 20th 2014 at 1:48:14 PM

I've got some shit games I can turn in for ice cream?

Awesome.

Oh really when?
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#84325: Sep 20th 2014 at 1:48:52 PM

I'm amused by the comments that it's a better tradein value than Gamestop. Shame you can't do it with Steam games.

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