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Wandering Jew
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Usually the low tiers of government. Mostly town council members, occasionally a mayor, and rarely a Senator or a House Representative.
Currently the most powerful Green Party member is Gayle Mc Laughlin, the mayor of Richmond, Virginia.
I think Vermont currently has a Governor who is not a Republican or a Democrat.
EDIT: It's a Senator not a Governor. He's a Democratic Socialist who is Unaffiliated with Political Parties.
edited 7th Oct '12 5:05:29 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
Is there anything parliamentary in nature, at any level of administration?
That is, the Government is pooled from the Legislature, and not elected separately.
Maybe at the municipal level. All other governments are knockoff products of the Federal one.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
lol, Connecticut For Lieberman Party
Góðberit Norðling
The biggest problem with this entire election is the miscommunication and ignorance surrounding it. There has been so much wrong information spread about Obama in my very own community that it's just... wow. It's amazing how far down we're falling.
And the worst thing about this is, I genuinely can't tell if this is anything new, or if this is just the same-old bullshit.
I'm just hoping that my state, Virginia, swings for Obama.
Wandering Jew
edited 7th Oct '12 5:35:03 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
Citizen
@Inhopelessguy: The City Commission form of municipal government is the closest. Far fewer cities use the Commission form anymore, though. Commissioners are elected at large, and the entire commission acts as the legislature, with each Commissioner having a particular area of responsibility. Most cities now use a Council-Manager form of government, where the executive is an employee of the City, selected by the Council, and serves at the council's pleasure. So the executive is accountable to the legislature, but not a part of the legislature.
Re: The Obama's vacation fund a while back. Bush spent over 124 million in tax payer money while he was in office. Most of the Obama's vacation costs aren't on the activities themselves but on secret service and security costs. They actually are being rather frugal on vacations for one of the most stressful jobs on the planet.
He's also taken far fewer vacations than a lot of his predecessors. Bush for instance spent a full third of his presidency on vacation.
edited 7th Oct '12 7:14:01 PM by shimaspawn
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Wandering Jew
Damn, George W. went on vacation more than any other president.
Even more than FDR who was president for over 12 years.
edited 7th Oct '12 7:25:48 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
Mikon :3
@Shima: So my mother is full of it. Wouldn't be the first time.
Wandering Jew
No, she was right.
The Obamas have spent over a million on vacation fees.
Its just that one or two million is chump change compared to the fees some presidents have racked up.
edited 7th Oct '12 7:34:32 PM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
Indiana Solo
yea, they keep knocking him for it though. -_-
I'm baaaaaaack
Because there aren't enough major gaffes he's made that truly deserve it.
Like, if they attacked him on his decisions regarding drones they'd look like massive hypocrites because that's knocking the military, or being tough on national security. Or really even say that they'd do anything different in that regard.
Sounds like grasping for straws.
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well I mean the people who care about indefinite detention and mobilizing in allied territory already know, so it's not like the GOP needs to do much more with that.
"Never let the truth get in the way of a good story." Twitter
Actually, if Republican activists were more strategic they WOULD make a bigger point about that, because that might help demoralize liberals.
However, that said, we're not talking about actual (strategically-thinking) political activists here, but just political...well, the kind of people who would be wanking about politics on Facebook.
Also, for the self-described-conservatives' echochamber, complaining about indefinite detention runs counter to the idea of "strong" defense, where "strong" means "never give America's enemies even an inch no matter what", sometimes even beyond rhyme or reason. On the other hand, complaining about Obama's vacations dovetails with the "government waste" narrative.
It's all about fitting facts to one's preferred narrative, anyway.
edited 7th Oct '12 8:08:46 PM by GlennMagusHarvey
Street Writing Man
@Vacations: The President cannot do anything without costing the country a lot of money...and a good portion of that is not his choice. The Secret Service won't let him go without protection or special travel provisions, for example...you can't fly the leader of the free world coach. You fly him in Air Force One.
Some Presidents have been better than others about not abusing the bubble placed around them, and as far as I've seen Obama is one of the better Presidents in that regard. So yeah, GOP is straw-grasping.
edited 7th Oct '12 8:10:34 PM by drunkscriblerian
If I were to write some of the strange things that come under my eyes they would not be believed. ~Cora M. Strayer~
Citizen
Republicans criticizing Obama for taking a vacation are putting themselves in a weird position. On the one hand, they're saying that he should be in D.C. running things instead of away. Well, in doing so they're implying that him being in town would be a good thing.
Why don't they criticize him by saying that it's a good thing that he's vacationing rather than being in D.C. mucking things up?
It reminds me of those who credit Reagan with ending Communism, which carries the implication taht but for Reagan, the Soviet Union would still be around today, which suggests that Communism is otherwise a viable political and economic system.
What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly.
Gunpla is amazing!
Because Obama could cure cancer and Republicans would find a way to fault him for it?
If that happened, they'd probably say something like: "Obama has caused an estimated $1.2 trillion in Social Security spending."
edited 8th Oct '12 12:04:34 AM by Balmung
Limbaugh would probably be ranting about "all those hard-working cancer cells that Obama put out of a job".
edited 8th Oct '12 12:07:03 AM by HilarityEnsues
Gunpla is amazing!
Yes.
Since thats 100% of their campaign right now.
This is not a "Vote for Romney" Campaign.
Its a "Vote against Obama" Campaign.
Wandering Jew
Only if it wants to win.
edited 8th Oct '12 12:15:32 AM by DeviantBraeburn
Everything is Possible. But some things are more Probable than others. JEBAGEDDON 2016
Wow. Those are shit-tiny third-parties.
Some of our minor parties hold councillors (to local councils), the Green Party are a minority-government in one city council (Brighton & Hove) and Ukip came second in European Parliament elections (beating the Labour Party by 10 000 votes).
edited 7th Oct '12 4:57:02 PM by Inhopelessguy