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blueharp Since: Dec, 1969
#101: Jul 2nd 2011 at 9:23:10 PM

I think it'd take a traffic engineer to answer that question anyway, and it'd probably depend on the volume and direction of traffic. The only roundabout like that around here has traffic compressing considerably before the roundabout so...I don't know.

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#102: Jul 2nd 2011 at 11:16:07 PM

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...and would probably involve things such as cost, location, traffic flows etc...

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edited 2nd Jul '11 11:17:00 PM by Greenmantle

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TheBatPencil from Glasgow, Scotland Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#103: Jul 3rd 2011 at 9:07:25 AM

Riddle me this: How would single-lane roundabouts work better when the roads are two or three lanes wide? The roundabout itself may be faster, but the bottleneck of two or three lanes worth of traffic trying to compress into one lane will simply move the problem spot out of the intersection and into the area of bottleneck.

Presumably the lane on the roundabout would be as wide as the three lanes leading up to it; rather than merge traffic into a narrow lane the lane is wide enough to accomodate traffic. That way on approach if you're going right, you stay right, if you're going straight on you stay in the middle and if your going left you stay left.

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Tangent128 from Virginia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#104: Jul 3rd 2011 at 11:05:43 AM

Maybe a multi-level roundabout? Have the left lanes feed in/out of the ground level, the right lanes to an elevated circle? tongue

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#105: Jul 3rd 2011 at 11:07:00 AM

so it would go up then down then around and oh god I've gone crosseyed.

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Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#106: Jul 3rd 2011 at 11:11:14 AM

A multi-level roundabout?! That's preposterous. But not a bad idea.

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#107: Jul 3rd 2011 at 2:14:12 PM

[up] Don't they already exist?

Try J10 M6 and any of the Birmingham Circuses — and damn it, any Roundabout Junction — they're not exactly hard to find here...

edited 3rd Jul '11 2:16:28 PM by Greenmantle

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Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#108: Jul 3rd 2011 at 2:54:44 PM

[up] That's a raised roundabout. That's as common as hell. I think he was talking about layered roundabouts, as in, stacked.

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#109: Jul 3rd 2011 at 3:18:02 PM

Raised anything is double the price, and before you ask, underground anything is triple or more.

Maybe I'll revive this thread next year after I take a related class. Transportation Engineering, I think it's called.

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#110: Jul 4th 2011 at 3:04:28 AM

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They exist too, no doubt.

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#111: Jul 7th 2011 at 7:23:53 AM

@ Mad #84: Try driving in the San Fransisco Bay Area before? On the east side of the bay, I think it's Telegraph Avenue that goes through at least six different townships - so you have 100 Telegraph Avenue, Oakland. Then four blocks down, 100 Telegraph Avenue, Berkeley. Another half a mile is 100 Telegraph Avenue, Walnut Grove. I can only imagine how much worse it would be if the street name changed when you switched which local authority owned it. waii

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Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
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#112: Jul 11th 2011 at 12:40:42 AM

All the roundabouts I've seen have been in the Washington area, and a few while I was in Cape Cod a few years ago, and every one of them has been a goddamn nightmare for traffic and pedestrians alike. The main reason they don't get crashes more often than they do is because people do their damndest to avoid them altogether.

edited 11th Jul '11 12:46:17 AM by Pykrete

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#113: Jul 11th 2011 at 7:50:35 AM

^^ Ninja: No, but I grew up close enough to Chicago to know what happens when a city absorbs its suburbs, and the town I actually lived in was one of four that formed an unbroken chain up the Fox River, so there were two long thoroughfares (one on either side of the river) that changed names at least three times as they passed through each one.

And the town I live in now is the westmost of three that have grown together — and each one uses a different street-naming system: in mine, it's numbered <Street>s run perpendicular to the river, numbered <Avenue>s run parallel to it; the next town east it's the reverse - numbered <Avenue>s are perpendicular, numbered <Street>s are parallel; then in the next one east it's back to the same way as in mine. So when you cross the city line on 18th, you go from being on 18th Avenue, to being on 18th Street, then back to being on 18th Avenue.

edited 11th Jul '11 7:56:13 AM by Madrugada

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