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getchman Since: Apr, 2010
#201: Apr 22nd 2012 at 8:44:50 AM

Chiyu has a backdoor program. does this mean someone is spying on her?

Belian In honor of my 50lb pup from 42 Since: Jan, 2001
In honor of my 50lb pup
#202: Apr 22nd 2012 at 8:50:24 AM

Even worse: they are spying through her. They have access to anything see senses (sight, hearing, etc.) that is saved on her "harddrive."

There is something else involved that will be explained next episode.

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RojanRando Don't hate on Moe Since: Aug, 2011
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#203: Apr 22nd 2012 at 12:51:06 PM

How does Chiyu not notice Haru looking through her stuff when they're linked?

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#204: Apr 22nd 2012 at 12:55:47 PM

She's emotional, and Haru is good.

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Belian In honor of my 50lb pup from 42 Since: Jan, 2001
In honor of my 50lb pup
#205: Apr 22nd 2012 at 1:16:37 PM

Plus he should be using a "mouse" that he can control from a hand down by his side, not a "touch screen" by her head.

Dang it... The anime is leaving out all sorts of details that explain things better and/or are only semi-plot relevant. I am still going to be watching it, but I hope that it improves before the end of this next arc because then I won't know how it was "supposed" to go.

Note: I am not saying They Changed It, Now It Sucks!. Just that because it is an Anime Adaptation of a book series, they end up leaving out a lot of details. The anime itself is fairly good and I probably won't notice most of the "let out" details without reading the book.

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Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
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#206: Apr 22nd 2012 at 1:34:28 PM

The manga had him do it via touchscreen too if I am remembering correctly. Maybe the anime is using elements from both the manga and the light novels?

Belian In honor of my 50lb pup from 42 Since: Jan, 2001
In honor of my 50lb pup
#207: Apr 22nd 2012 at 1:44:56 PM

Nope. In this particular case, the manga specifically showed his hand down at his side and moving a cursor around on his "screen." In fact, the cursor having afterimages is what made him realize that there was something wrong.

I just re-read it to do that comparison at the bottom of the last thread page.

edited 22nd Apr '12 1:45:24 PM by Belian

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UltimatelySubjective Since: Jun, 2011
#208: Apr 22nd 2012 at 6:18:40 PM

I also thought she should notice/recognise the arm movement at that level of intimacy. I mean, wouldn't it be incredibly rude to do something else while you're supposed to be apologising?

EHK Happy Christmas! from EAST ALWAYS EAST Since: Mar, 2010
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#209: Apr 22nd 2012 at 7:03:06 PM

As I said she was really upset and much of the time she had her eyes closed. She wasn't really watching for stuff like that. Plus he was so close to her face she would have a hard time seeing what his hands were doing.

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UltimatelySubjective Since: Jun, 2011
#210: Apr 22nd 2012 at 7:37:00 PM

Okay, maybe if she was that distracted, but most people would have even felt the movement. They are on a bed after all, and you would usually expect them to be keeping as still as possible.

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#211: Apr 22nd 2012 at 7:39:38 PM

They were having a shouting match part of the time if I remember correctly. And one tends to move a bit during those.

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Belian In honor of my 50lb pup from 42 Since: Jan, 2001
In honor of my 50lb pup
#212: Apr 22nd 2012 at 7:42:35 PM

A) You are probably thinking about it to hard. B) Chapter 5 page 9 of the manga shows exactly how he could/should have done it without her noticing.

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UltimatelySubjective Since: Jun, 2011
#213: Apr 22nd 2012 at 8:50:30 PM

Probably am overthinking it now but it was more of a "tread carefully" feeling I got at the time.

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#214: Apr 24th 2012 at 5:16:10 PM

The manga isn't the definitive version in the first place. Both are based on a Light Novel.

Belian In honor of my 50lb pup from 42 Since: Jan, 2001
In honor of my 50lb pup
#215: Apr 24th 2012 at 7:04:40 PM

I know that. Just saying that the manga version shows the whole situation in a way that makes more sense.

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Belian In honor of my 50lb pup from 42 Since: Jan, 2001
In honor of my 50lb pup
#216: Apr 27th 2012 at 3:33:33 PM

Someone has a translated version of episode 4 out.

Just one thing that was not well explained (at least in that translation) is why it was such a bad thing to do. Though if you think about the strain, it all makes sense.

On another topic, it is interesting to see peoples' reactions to the show. Various blogs: Doesn't mind it ; mixed reaction to episodes 1&2 and happy that episode 3 was "slower" (also read the comments) ; "fell in love" with it ; one of the translators take on it ; thinks it is WAY too talky

The last one got a bad impression of it because she did not like having basic game rules/terminology explained. And I don't see how you could "show" the stuff talked about in episode 4... at least, not as clearly.

edited 27th Apr '12 3:35:23 PM by Belian

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burnpsy Since: Sep, 2010
#217: Apr 27th 2012 at 3:45:25 PM

Someone has a translated version of episode 4 out.

It's not just anyone, someone ripped the official Viz stream from Hulu.

Belian In honor of my 50lb pup from 42 Since: Jan, 2001
In honor of my 50lb pup
#218: Apr 27th 2012 at 4:07:26 PM

Thought the translation was a little lacking...

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Joaqs Técnico Electromecánico from Argentina Since: Jul, 2009
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#219: Apr 27th 2012 at 5:19:52 PM

[up]The official translation is bad?

LiberatedLiberater 奇跡の魔女 from [DATA EXPUNGED] Since: Jun, 2011
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#220: Apr 27th 2012 at 5:22:07 PM

If you're talking about Hadena, they're... not exactly the most reputable group around and are basically the Butt-Monkey of fansubs. I think sometimes they rip official subs and add their own "touches" to the translations".

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Belian In honor of my 50lb pup from 42 Since: Jan, 2001
In honor of my 50lb pup
#221: Apr 27th 2012 at 5:41:15 PM

[up][up]Not "bad" so much as "I could swear that the characters are saying more in certain spots even though the subs do give a good idea of what they are saying"

[up]I'm fairly sure I saw the strait-ripped version. It did not have any "silly touches/'translations'" that I noticed.

edited 27th Apr '12 5:42:57 PM by Belian

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LiberatedLiberater 奇跡の魔女 from [DATA EXPUNGED] Since: Jun, 2011
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#222: Apr 27th 2012 at 5:47:59 PM

Sorry if I implied that they're like gg; I meant that Hadena literally makes the subs worse through incompetence.

edited 27th Apr '12 5:48:28 PM by LiberatedLiberater

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Joaqs Técnico Electromecánico from Argentina Since: Jul, 2009
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#223: Apr 27th 2012 at 6:21:26 PM

[up][up]Ah, that is interesting.

[up]That looks like a funny story.

UltimatelySubjective Since: Jun, 2011
#224: Apr 27th 2012 at 9:31:42 PM

Okay, of course I have issues with the way the way "Physical Full Burst" was used.

I'd say it should have been made clear that even with maximum speed of thought (and indeed, even if you clock up everything in the body), there's some things a body can't do. That car for instance, was must have been moving at least 10 meters per second (which is approximately the maximum human running speed ever). And it's still frozen solid while Kuroyuki-hime is moving.

There's no way a human can move faster than that from a standing start.

Nevermind the effects this would have on a human body (which would be a good reason to restrict it to lvl 9 characters I suppose).

Anyway, all they would have had to do to fix this would be to do the moving part in slow motion at least (rather than complete time stop). Just Make the car further away so that they can dodge it rather than defy the laws of physics to avoid it.

I might have to stop watching this show. It's when a show appears very smart and serious that I question it's logic. It's good that this is a show I'm holding to a high standard, but not good it's trying to be too "scientific".

Belian In honor of my 50lb pup from 42 Since: Jan, 2001
In honor of my 50lb pup
#225: Apr 27th 2012 at 11:07:48 PM

The benefit the Light Novel and Manga have in this case is that they can describe things like "oh, thing have gotten closer even though we are in Burst Mode" much easier than the anime can show the characters moving at one speed while everything else moves at another (still backgrounds are much easier to deal with than ones that you have to continually re-draw or else have things suddenly become closer). The manga clearly states "while we have been talking the fist has inched closer to his body" and "the car is already much closer to us then when we entered Burst Mode". Not to mention that they entered Burst Mode as soon as they spotted/heard the car heading in their direction in the manga and not after it was in the air—that was to add more visual drama to the seen.

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