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Malco from the Gungeon Since: Oct, 2015
#10501: Mar 27th 2017 at 2:29:25 AM

There's deserts on tropical islands if we're talking Pokemon Sun and Moon though...

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WaxingName from Everywhere Since: Oct, 2010
#10502: Mar 27th 2017 at 6:19:52 AM

Again, though, Sunshine captures every single unique aspect of a tourist trap perfectly while designing great levels around them.

Bianco Hills is a historical riverside village.

Ricco Harbor is a port and market where the tourists buy food.

Gelato Beach is a sunshiny beach where you can relax and play in the sand.

Pinna Park is an amusement park.

Sirena Beach is a romantic beach at sunset with a hotel.

Noki Bay is ancient ruins.

Pianta Village is another historical village. This one is just more vertical.

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randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#10503: Mar 27th 2017 at 8:21:44 AM

Again, though, I said a sequel could have even more...

And the real world doesn't have enough for a sequel...

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WaxingName from Everywhere Since: Oct, 2010
#10504: Mar 27th 2017 at 8:46:08 AM

Why do we need a direct sequel to Sunshine, though?

Odyssey already does enough with it being a return to the exploration formula, yet executes it differently.

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randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#10505: Mar 27th 2017 at 8:50:36 AM

We don't, I was embracing someone else' idea for a Sunshine sequel...because I would never even suggest such a thing.

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ThriceCharming Red Spade, Black Heart from Maryland Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#10506: Mar 27th 2017 at 4:02:36 PM

I don't like Mario 64 and Sunshine as much as most people seem to. I played Banjo-Kazooie before playing Mario 64, which made the latter seem less than impressive in comparison, and as for Sunshine... Well, I don't actually like anything about it, except maybe the graphics. Let's leave it at that.

On the other hand, I could gush about Galaxy for hours. It felt like the first real Mario game I'd played since (at least) World.

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PrincessGwen The Scarlet Witch from In the U.S.A Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: If it's you, it's okay
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#10507: Mar 27th 2017 at 4:08:57 PM

Personally, I still like Super Mario 64 despite the terrible instances of Camera Screw in it. It might be because it was my first Mario game.

And I don't hate Super Mario Sunshine as much as some people do, but it's a stepdown from Super Mario 64 and doesn't compare to Galaxy.

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#10508: Mar 27th 2017 at 4:18:47 PM

I haven't played Sunshine to know for sure what I think of it, but I do really like 64, and freaking love the Galaxy games and 3D World.

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RainingMetal Since: Jan, 2010
#10509: Mar 27th 2017 at 4:21:31 PM

I absolutely loathed 64's camera, although I played Sunshine first.

ThriceCharming Red Spade, Black Heart from Maryland Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#10510: Mar 27th 2017 at 4:26:39 PM

[up][up] 3D World is definitely the most underrated Mario game ever. I seriously love it. If it didn't have a timer (I don't like timers), it'd be perfect.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#10511: Mar 27th 2017 at 4:27:25 PM

It took Lakitu a while to get used to the new job, yeah.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#10512: Mar 27th 2017 at 8:19:05 PM

I feel like Super Mario 64's camera problems are a bit blown out of proportion. It gets screwy a few times, especially if you're trying to get onto the roof of Big Boo's Haunt, but I don't recall having too many difficulties with it.

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ThriceCharming Red Spade, Black Heart from Maryland Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#10513: Mar 27th 2017 at 11:19:21 PM

The camera takes a lot of flak in both 64 and Sunshine, and while I'm not a big fan of either game, the camera was rarely (if ever) the issue.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#10514: Mar 27th 2017 at 11:33:25 PM

... Sunshine had a perfectly fine camera, though.

Analog camera controls and all that.

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WaxingName from Everywhere Since: Oct, 2010
#10515: Mar 28th 2017 at 9:12:29 AM

Sunshine fixed the whole camera issue by having a "center the camera" button. For that matter, the DS remake of 64 did the same.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#10516: Mar 28th 2017 at 9:26:01 AM

The backlash against Galaxy isn't too surprising. Fandoms tend to run on the idea that for something to be good, something else has to be terrible.

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randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Snow Ghost
#10517: Mar 28th 2017 at 10:06:06 AM

Knowing when to switch between manual and automatic camera fixes all 64's camera problems...

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WaxingName from Everywhere Since: Oct, 2010
#10518: Mar 28th 2017 at 11:31:01 AM

[up]You mean between "Lakitu head" camera and "Mario head" camera? I almost always switched to Mario head camera then zoomed out when playing OG 64.

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randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#10519: Mar 28th 2017 at 12:02:50 PM

Yes, that is what I mean.

But we know what they represent, there's no reason to not use the actual terms.

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ThriceCharming Red Spade, Black Heart from Maryland Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#10520: Mar 28th 2017 at 2:22:28 PM

@ Pulse: The problem is that the camera automatically swings around behind Mario whenever you use the Hover Nozzle... except when it doesn't. So you often find yourself taking a second or two to reorient yourself whenever you start hovering, meaning you may not have enough time to get to where you wanted to go (such as the other side of a bottomless pit).

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#10521: Mar 28th 2017 at 4:28:51 PM

Pannenkoek continues to make Mario 64 his bitch.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#10522: Mar 28th 2017 at 5:22:38 PM

[up][up]I've never really experienced that problem unless I'm pulling some kind of stunt to get up somewhere I can only barely reach with Hover. What I would consider fairly standard paths never did that for me.

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#10523: Mar 28th 2017 at 6:59:15 PM

"is it just me or are people actually starting to turn against Galaxy for being linear now that Odyssey was announced?"

Since this phenomenom has been present with every fandom, I'm far from surprised.

It's rather sad, if you ask me. Unless you happen to have hated Galaxy all along, this habit of trashing a game most people used to enjoy just to enlighten an upcoming promising game is just jarring. Even to this day, I rank Galaxy my second-favorite 3D platformer (behind only Banjo-Kazooie), and yet it doesn't dictate how excited I am towards Odyssey.

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randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Snow Ghost
#10524: Mar 28th 2017 at 7:57:07 PM

[up][up][up]At least the music reminds Randomness of Sonic Advance 3, because that is over complicated nothingness...

For reals.

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#10525: Mar 28th 2017 at 8:00:36 PM

[up][up] Basically. I am looking forward to Odyssey and thoroughly enjoyed the Galaxy games.


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