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chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#1: Jun 5th 2011 at 7:52:01 PM

Okay, who's idea was it to put Anthology and Omnibus—two types of formats that are similar but has big differences—in the same page?

Anthology: A series of short stories with an unifying theme, usually by multiple authors.

Main/Anthology found in: 38 articles, excluding discussions.

Omnibus: A group of novels/issues collected in a single volume, usually from the same series.

Main/Omnibus found in: 7 articles, excluding discussions.

We need to split Omnibus off and give in more love. Anthology is smothering it.

I can hear a Lumper crying. And it's not because we're splitting a page.

edited 5th Jun '11 7:56:53 PM by chihuahua0

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#2: Jun 5th 2011 at 8:15:02 PM

Completely agree with the split.

Some nitpicks on each definition:

  • Anthology: A series of stories (Add "or short works") with an unifying theme (add "or characteristic" '), usually by multiple authors, (add gathered into a single volume").

Omnibus: A group of (change to "works") (add "collected in a single volume"), usually from the same series ( add "or by the same author").

edited 5th Jun '11 8:21:03 PM by Madrugada

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chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#3: Jun 5th 2011 at 8:25:11 PM

Now here are the task:

  • Split off Omnibus and give it its own page. Whatever we use YKTTW or not is what we should decide.
  • Expand the definition of both pages, especially Omnibus. Poor thing only have about three sentences.
  • Check for any misuse. This should be easy.
  • More Wiki Love for Omnibus.
  • ???

Also, should we give Collection its own page, since it is mentioned in this article too?

edited 5th Jun '11 8:30:26 PM by chihuahua0

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#4: Jun 6th 2011 at 6:37:23 AM

Omnibus also includes stories originally published as serials and then later collected into a single volume, correct?

I didn't write any of that.
chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#5: Jun 6th 2011 at 6:57:48 AM

[up] I think so, but I need to look up Omnibus...

EDIT:

A printed anthology of the works of one author or of writings on related subjects.

And anthology:

a book or other collection of selected writings by various authors, usually in the same literary form, of the same period, or on the same subject: an anthology of Elizabethan drama; an anthology of modern philosophy.

a collection of selected writings by one author.

Also, should we have the page Collection or is that overkill?

edited 6th Jun '11 7:00:36 AM by chihuahua0

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#6: Jun 6th 2011 at 11:31:57 AM

Y'know, the dictionary definitions have a lot of overlap. Two different tropes with that fuzzy of a line dividing them are usually a problem waiting to happen.

As I see it, we can go one of two ways: accept that the definitional differences are really blurry and leave them as one thing, or draw a bright clear line between them, even if it's not exactly the way the dictionary defines them.

If we decide to draw our own line, I would suggest that it be

  • Anthology = collection of works by different authors, united by a common characteristic (theme, subject, form, time period, original source... could be almost anything). They do not have to have been previously published.
  • Omnibus: collection of works all by the same author, that were published elsewhere previously.

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chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#7: Jun 6th 2011 at 11:36:04 AM

[up] That's distinct enough. Should I split Omnibus right now, or should we wait?

What about a collection? You wouldn't call a compilation of comic issues an omnibus, since they are usually by different authors but it is the same story.

chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#8: Jul 31st 2011 at 9:07:42 PM

Necro BUMP. It's fortunate I mis-clicked and got to page ten.

Should I YKTTW Omnibus to get more examples, or should I just split if off now?

Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#9: Aug 1st 2011 at 1:13:51 AM

I'd favour the acquisition of examples, myself, so there's a vote for sending it through YKTTW.

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#10: Aug 1st 2011 at 7:10:59 AM

We do need more examples. Run it through YKTTW.

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pokedude10 Since: Oct, 2010
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#12: Aug 1st 2011 at 10:53:57 AM

Send it to YKTTW for more examples. It's a good split though.

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firbozz Since: Mar, 2011
#13: Aug 7th 2011 at 12:21:54 PM

They're too different. For a non-literary example of why, the Charlie Parker Omnibus is a music books that's a huge collection of Charlie Parker tunes. Something like that can't be an anthology (Not even literature!)

chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#14: Aug 9th 2011 at 2:44:48 PM

Sorry for not creating the YKTTW. sad I'll get to that now.

chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#15: Sep 14th 2011 at 5:45:34 PM

BUMP. The YKTTW is still around. A split is still in order, since putting two formats together that share very little on the same page needs fixing.

chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#17: Jan 14th 2012 at 12:59:33 PM

BUMP. Once the YKTTW for Omnibus is launched (after the description gets more meat), this can be locked.

chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#18: Jan 16th 2012 at 8:49:07 AM

Okay, I'm about to launch Omnibus.

EDIT: Okay, It's launched. I'm adding it to some indexes. Anything else I have to do before I holler?

edited 16th Jan '12 8:56:28 AM by chihuahua0

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#19: Mar 2nd 2012 at 5:21:49 PM

Epic thread resurrection power activate!

Seriously though, Omnibus is split off from Anthology. This is good.

Most of the examples in Anthology are now of Omnibusses (Omnibi?). This is bad.

Love has been graciously extended to Omnibus, should we not extend similar love to Anthology?

Angry gets shit done.
abk0100 Since: Aug, 2011
#20: Mar 3rd 2012 at 2:25:34 AM

The anime and comics sections were all omnibuses, and they were already duplicated on the Omnibus page, so I got rid of them. I think the page is almost completely free of them now.

Is there a reason there are films listed on Anthology when there's an Anthology Film subtrope? I guess I'll just move them all.

edited 3rd Mar '12 2:27:03 AM by abk0100

ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#21: Apr 3rd 2012 at 7:13:11 AM

Is this complete?

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#22: Apr 21st 2012 at 3:24:32 AM

Asking again. Is this done?

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