Subpage for RPGs?: Constructed World

The current write-up states that listing all RPGs would break the article's spine. The argument is valid, but what about making a subpage along the lines of ConstructedWorld/RolePlayingGames just for tabletop and video RPG games?

Here is a starting list of constructed RPG worlds, just to prove it's viable...

• Arcanum: The eponymous Arcanum
• Darkstone: Uma
• Diablo: Sanctuary
• Dragon Age: Thedas (actually, "THEDAS" = "THE Dragon Age Setting")
• Dungeon Siege: Aranna
• The Elder Scrolls: Nirn (though the continent of Tamriel is the only part of it seen so far)
• Revenant: Ahkulion
• Sacred: Ancaria
• Septerra Core: Septerra
• Siege of Avalon: Eurale

What do you think?

Support. Also, is that thing about Dragon Age real? I never noticed it before.

I don't unless one of them has something construction that stands out from most, why list it?

That's what the DA wiki says.

What you are saying is akin to ruling that only girls who kick ass in some unique way should be listed under Action Girl (or any other trope with subpages). ^^; I thought There Is No Such Thing As Notability, only a measure of how well an example fits the trope and vice versa...

There's works pages, the main page doesn't really need every single generic example. Which is why you can get away with saying its nearly universal in X genre.

It's why all professional wrestling examples of Improbable Weapon User were limited to three bullets, its why nobody bothers to list everything the Sonic Screwdriver can do on New Powers as the Plot Demands. Its why we only list aversions, parodies and leans of the fourth wall to Most Common Superpower when talking about comic books. The main trope pages really don't need every single generic example.

Action Girl is a bad example.

I agree that mainspace doesn't need a full list of constructed RPG worlds. That is why I proposed a subpage.

I figured. It was just the first one that sprung to mind yesterday.

edited 2nd Jun '11 1:16:13 AM by Koveras

Bump. If we have to get a crowner to finish this off, that's fine, but I don't think that's necessary.

Wouldn't this basically be "every RPG ever"?

Shadow Hearts is not this trope. Nor are the Persona games, or Vampire The Masquerade Bloodlines. And that's just off a glance at my shelf.

And there's a lot of Table Top RPGs that are set on Earth. It's really popular as a setting. Any of the World Of Darkness games for instance or things like All Flesh Must Be Eaten.

edited 23rd Jun '11 2:02:51 PM by shimaspawn

It is rare for a RPG to be set on earth its not unheard of.

The ones that are set on earth In Name Only though is where its blurry. Like MS Saga the world map looks a like earth but that's the only thing.

edited 24th Jun '11 3:13:35 AM by Raso

A number of superhero ones too.

None of the ones I mentioned are set on Earth In Name Only. Shadow Hearts does world travelling and shows off exotic locals. Persona 3 and Persona 4 are very much set in Japan. Vampire The Masquerade Bloodlines is set in LA. Oh, the Tony Hawks Underground series is set on Earth. It's not a Universal Trope.

I know that I was just wondering where do the examples for Earth In Name Only go?

MS Saga is pretty much a Constructed World a long the lines of like Final Fantasy but it clearly is earth because of the world map◊ outside of that and the fact there is a moon its got nothing (but SD gundams).

edited 24th Jun '11 7:55:12 AM by Raso

That's just a Constructed World that's shaped like Earth. Mind you, I haven't played the game, but looking at the map, that's my take.

A lot of RPGs fall into Like Reality, Unless Noted, I think.

edited 27th Jun '11 1:18:50 PM by Koveras

Really? I've never seen one videogame RPG that did.

Well, technically everything falls into Like Reality, Unless Noted. That's kinda the point. If we see a world with castles, we can assume that there are knights and horses and princesses.

Any RPG would be:

1. On earth
   • The Future
   • Urban Scifi
   • ect
2. Constructed World
   • All Alien planets cover this in The Future.

The only murky examples I see that dont fall under those is Earth In Name Only where its so far in the future or past that the only thing in common is the moon, or things like Chrono Trigger that make passing references to "Earth" but its clearly not.

edited 27th Jun '11 1:45:27 PM by Raso

I have a Romance Of The Three Kingdoms RPG on my computer. Feudal Japan is also a valid setting. You can have historical RP Gs. They just tend to have less overt magic.

Yeah Romance Of The Three Kingdoms, Age Of Empires, Kessen, Nobunagas Ambition, Dynasty Warriors ect. All set in the past (some like Onimusha Dawn Of Dreams or God Of War might be fantasy but its earth in the past).

The massive amount of Japanese Sengoku Era based works and Romance Of The Three Kingdoms works is insane.

edited 28th Jun '11 12:50:15 PM by Raso

EDIT: Edited out.

I honestly had no idea. Sorry about that.

edited 29th Jun '11 1:09:07 AM by DoktorvonEurotrash

Incorrect. They have an MMORPG as well.

The way I see it now is that the main stumbling block about my proposal is the belief that a vast majority, if not all, RP Gs are set in Constructed Worlds. But I think there have been enough examples in this thread already to prove the opposite.

I have a problem with creating a subpage of a trope for just one medium without doing the same for the others, and I especially have a problem with creating a subpage for just one genre.

We've listed a bunch of RP Gs set on Earth because we've had to establish that there are a substantial number of RP Gs set on Earth, not because they're more common than the alternative. Frankly, I'm not sure we've even listed enough RP Gs on constructed worlds to "break the spine of the article", despite what the article says.

For Tabletop RP Gs, say "it'd be easier to list exceptions" and a brief note on how the nature of the medium explains why Constructed Worlds are the norm there. I don't think listing all of the Video Game RPG constructed worlds would necessarily break the spine of the article; it'd just take up most of the video game section. Alternately, if you can flesh "RP Gs tend to be set on non-Earth-like worlds" out into a viable subtrope, maybe go with that.