Metal Gear/ Metal Gear Solid

Oh god I hope not. I like Raiden too much.

A part of me is often kind of sad that they scrapped their original plan to talk about that time in Metal Gear Rising, actually. That could've been interesting, at least to me.

Oh well, at least we can still hope for a game with the Boss in the future.

I'm still hoping that Kojima is holding Cobra Unit for the Grand Finale or, at least, his final game in the franchise.

Why the need for another forum in regards to V?

Why not? I mean, we're about to have ghosts haunt Big Boss, so why not be treated to watching Raiden descend into what he is by 2014?

edited 6th Apr '14 11:27:23 AM by HallowHawk

Because this is a general thread. The other one is specifically for the game. The game-specific one is usually where spoilers go.

Why do we have to do that? I mean, we talk about spoilers from earlier games here, so what's there to lose if we talk about V's plot bits here?

edited 6th Apr '14 11:38:33 AM by HallowHawk

There's something oddly satisfying about the idea of his last games being remakes of MG 1 and 2, but considering what it would probably take to make a WWII Cobra Unit game, that wouldn't surprise me either.

Because MGSV is a current game that came out after these forums were created. And like others have said, there's a good number of people here who wanna avoid anything related to MGSV spoilers until TPP comes out, and they don't wanna have to blacklist all of their MGS places to do that.

edited 6th Apr '14 11:39:56 AM by NaomiHansen

I see. Sorry, it's just that, if there's something I say not related to what's currently going, it winds up ignored, like, much earlier, I asked how Zanzibar Land can afford mercenaries, and no one answered.

edited 6th Apr '14 12:15:47 PM by HallowHawk

Gene gave him all the resources from Army's Heaven before he died.

Or if you subscribe to the theory that Portable Ops is noncanon, he amassed the money it during his days as a mercenary.

Those can explain MSF, but not so much Zanzibar Land, which happens almost three decades later. I personally think that after NATO bombs Outer Heaven, Zanzibar Land gets built through whatever funds BB had left plus some help from Ocelot and other allies.

I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that Big Boss might have left some stashed away "just in case".

Probably one of the few sane things he'd do at that point, then.

Guys, I was talking about how Zanzibar Land can afford mercenaries, since according to the Metal Gear 2 manual, Zanzibar Land was just a piece of territory that decided to sue for independence after the Soviet Union fell apart, only for it to be opposed, with its independence guaranteed thanks to the many mercenaries the territory hired.

edited 7th Apr '14 9:43:39 AM by HallowHawk

Best answer is probably that Kojima never really thought that through. The plot of the original MGS games is pretty cliché and thin, after all.

Well, as suggested, it could be possible that Big Boss kept some of Gene's funds in reserve and used those towards Diamond Dogs, Outer Heaven, or Zanzibar Land. Its also not unreasonable to suggest that Big Boss and Kaz saved up the profits MSF made, and then spent those on Diamond Dogs; which we can assume makes its own money, which would in turn go towards Outer Heaven along with some of FOXHOUND's paycheck.

Another thing to consider is that many of Zanzibar's soldiers came from both sides of Outer Heaven, and, like Kyle Schneider, feel they owe their lives to Big Boss; in which case money isn't nearly as much of an issue. And if any of the mercs at Zanzibar Land agreed with Big Boss's philosophy, money exists for the sole purpose of getting more guns.

edited 7th Apr '14 7:04:36 AM by TheAirman

If I recall, didn't George Kasler fight there and lost a leg, hence why he isn't a mercenary anymore, meaning that not all mercs fought with Big Boss, and most of those mercs may have fought there to feed their families.

Speaking of Metal Gear 2, the manual lists Holly as blue-eyed. Does she look blue-eyed◊?

edited 7th Apr '14 10:07:52 AM by HallowHawk

Not really, but that might be the result of hardware limitations or something. Or somebody in programming not reading the manual, or that fluff being decided on after the fact, or whatever.

I see, thanks

Speaking of Holly, anyone get the feeling Cecile might be her mother, since Holly's mentioned to be half-French, and that Cecile may have married a Britishman post-1975?

Don't know enough to comment, haven't played Metal Gear 2 or finished Peace Walker.

Well, assuming Cecile wasn't taken by either Cipher or XOF during or shortly after her return to France, it could technically be possible. Spoilered for people avoiding GZ.

Granted, Cecile exists mostly to foreshadow Peace Walker's twist (and provide some humour at Miller's expense). Honestly I doubt we'll ever hear of Holly again unless Kojima does change his mind on remaking the MSX games.

edited 7th Apr '14 10:56:28 AM by TheAirman

I wasn't asking you, though thanks for replying.

edited 7th Apr '14 10:57:20 AM by HallowHawk

Well, I think I know that I've started to go off the deep end—I waited three days for this to get sorted out, but I finally now have my custom URL for my blog. Now if only the posts I put on it were actually quality ones.

Metal Gear Solid and Uncharted movies update.

I'm not gonna lie—for obvious reasons, I'm a little nervous here. My inner optimist is trying to be pumped, but still.

edited 11th Apr '14 3:53:46 PM by NaomiHansen

Metal Gear is probably the best possible source material for a video game movie, at least. It's probably still going to be awful, but the odds are only 98% instead of 100%.

It's already a movie really