Herman Cain announces 2012 run

He announced it Saturday, but I don't see a topic.

http://www.hermancain.com/index.asp

Good thing is he seems to not be putting any focus on the stupid "social issues".

http://www.scribd.com/full/54720250?access_key=key-116s073qo20a9wqx7gv4

I want him to win the primary just to see all the liberals rage at a black(er) Republican candidate (which they would, given how often they play the race card).

edited 23rd May '11 12:05:34 PM by deuxhero

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I want to know why I would want him. Somebody who can't keep his Pizza shops around would not make a good president.

Seriously, I have not seen a Godfather's for years. Even Little Caesar's made a comeback.

edited 23rd May '11 12:11:51 PM by blueharp

I find Cain amusing, mainly because he's the only candidate who can honestly claim to be a political outsider.

Not that I agree with his views, but I wish more people like that would make presidential bids.

"Seriously, I have not seen a Godfather's for years"

Given he hasn't been involved for years...

Not exactly checking the time line, because at best, then he didn't build a company that lasted.

If having a failed enterprise were a disqualifier for candidacy, then Bush would never have gotten in. Heck, Abraham Lincoln was a repeated loser before he got a break.

It amuses me to see Cain's run. These days whenever a businessman tries to pull off one of these "self-made man" candidacies, I cannot help but think back on the days of Ross Perot — and, more recently Donald Trump. The problem is that running a nation is not like running a business, and a complete lack of political experience — and, let's face it, tact — is a major factor against people like Cain.

Which is not to say that I wouldn't like to see a plainspoken, no BS candidate, but such people tend to be destroyed by the process. They tap into a reservoir of disgust with career politicians that runs deeply through the country, but they can't sustain their bids with workable policies and can't stand up to the personal scrutiny.

Liberals would love to see a Cain presidential bid. It'd make it all that much easier for Obama in 2012 <nefarious laughing>

You're saying Obama fits in But Not Too Black?

Well, yeah, so would half the current Republican field. I think the only currently declared candidate that has a snowflake's chance in Hell of beating Obama is Romney.

edited 23rd May '11 12:52:11 PM by Fighteer

Eh, I still think Pawlenty is going to end up entering and taking over; it's just that, if you say too much insane stuff in the primary, you can't win the general election, so a lot of peeps are holding off entering until the fire cools down.

Though honestly? I think this is going to be like 1996: a sacrificial goat candidate. Poor poor Bob Dole...

Agreed. For all their talk of retaking the White House, the Republicans are still in full-on "minority party" mode, making lots of bluster and waving lots of dicks in the air, but very short on actual policy — at least, anything that isn't guaranteed to piss off half the country. As I said in a different thread (the one on Trump, I think), they've pushed the Overton window about as far as it can go and it's starting to push back.

@Usht

Nope, that's the Democrats. See: Reid.

Oh yeah, that was priceless after all.

And, strictly speaking, he was right after all.

He doesn't have a snowball's chance in Hell of getting the nomination. The Deep South wouldn't tolerate it.

Keep in mind his popularity, such as it is, begins and ends with the whole substituting for Neal Boortz thing. So I wouldn't write off the Deep South that soon; actually, he's probably going to get a lot of support from there.

Plus, he's black, and if he rides that fact like Obama did, he can make it through the preliminaries.

I wouldn't count on it. There's a good chance he'll just be seen as a token candidate, like Michael Steele.

Would be a stupid move. Black vote is overwhelmingly democratic anyway, and they'd lose the far-right vote in the South. Dumbest thing the GOP could do.

GOP tickets generally feature a fundie and a Good Ol' Boy for a reason: That's what their bases want.

edited 23rd May '11 5:31:13 PM by SavageHeathen

Oh, I highly doubt he'll make the final cut. I just don't see him being cut early, given how divided the Republican candidate field is.

I was thinking of Steele also. I remember that he was very unpopular among the party.

Steele WAS clearly a token, though. In retrospect it's transparently obvious that his appointment had nothing to do with his qualifications and everything to do with the GOP trying to look like they're not racist for hating Obama.

It would be different if they had a black representative who was actually good at his job.

edited 23rd May '11 5:46:42 PM by Karkadinn

Herman Cain = Names to Run Away from Really Fast

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He won't get the insane right wing vote due to Name of Cain.

All the same, a Cain-Mc Cain vote would be something to see.

Note he has the page quote for Name of Cain