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Going up, one of the big issues with gender neutral restrooms in some places like nightclubs is the issue of what some men might do to peoples' drinks, or even lone individuals in those restrooms. It doesn't solve the whole men-on-men issue, nor does it entirely do away with what might happens to those of women and non-binary individuals who lean more to female, but it does at least help combat it.

Forcing just gender neutral restrooms has this issue because of that potential, and it would turn into a huge public safety issue as a result.

I know that's not being discussed here, and I'm not suggesting it is - but there often is one person who suggests it.

edited 23rd Oct '16 11:43:14 PM by RatherRandomRachel

Yeah, nah, just one gender-neutral restroom is a bad idea. Male and female plus gender neutral will have to be our best bet.

As a non-binary person, I want to use whatever bathroom I feel like. But more, I want single occupancy bathrooms wherever, or the large scale version, isolated stalls.

I would consider a third gender bathroom offensive.

They already have unisex bathrooms in canada occasionally. Usually a separate one for wheelchair access, or baby change tables.

Yeah, ditto for Australia. My old high school had a single-occupancy bathroom or two available to students, but they were separated from the male and female bathrooms intended for Year 7-9 students, and Year 10-12 students.

And me, personally, I like to use a unisex bathroom whenever possible. Some of my dysphoria comes from which bathroom I use, so...

edited 24th Oct '16 12:43:11 AM by Psychedelicate

Well, if the shipping costs on that are going to double the order cost I might as well get some Fimo in and sculpt it myself. Hmmm.

Just to throw it out there, gender neutral bathrooms are also great for mothers with young sons or fathers with young daughters. There are a lot of people who could benefit from having them, both GRSM and not.

I think they could simply remove the wall in front of the bathrooms and turn the urinals from the male bathroom into stalls. That way the bathroom would simply be turned into a corridor. An open one, even. Awkward? For some people, yes. But even safer then current bathrooms because it's literally an open space. Anyone can see who enters from the outside. Not that they want to, but if security really is an issue some places can just pay for someone to keep watch outside.

Yes, it's an overly simplistic solution. It was intended as such.

I'm seen at least one place with a male, female and children's bathroom, where the parents could go in with their child. Only one place, tho.

I wonder if I end up raising a small child on my own and take them to a mall or something where they only have those diaper changing places in the women's bathroom. It'd certainly be awkward. I say it'd be funnier if I were a weightlifter :P

edited 24th Oct '16 3:02:08 PM by I-Teleported-Bread

Honestly I don't see why we can't have gender neutral bathrooms, just have one bathroom and that can be that. If we're honestly at the point where women are having to use the bathroom to protect themselves from dangerous men/men are having to use the bathroom to protect themselves from dangerous women (while leaving themselves open to attack from dnagerous people of the same gender) then we should just be honest about it and invest in gender based safe rooms.

Several countries do have gender neutral bathrooms and I don't believe they're suffering an epidemic of bathroom based sexual assaults because of it.

edited 24th Oct '16 2:18:55 PM by Silasw

But you're letting facts and logic get in the way of scaremongering again.

Pretty sure you know the drill by now.

Tried drawing a thing. Failed at drawing a thing. Trying to work out what I need practice at most.

edited 24th Oct '16 3:51:55 PM by Deadbeatloser22

This makes less than zero sense.

Most of the small details that make art good—line strength, style, etc—come from simply doing it a lot. The real core aspect of drawing, and one of the few that can really be taught, is knowing what you're drawing looks like. So in this case that would be things like anatomy, first and foremost. In schools they generally do gesture drawing classes and whatnot, but in absence of that, I recommend porn.

No, really. There's no clothes to obscure how the body works, and they tend to get into lots of interesting poses. It's a great reference for getting a sense of what the body looks like and how it moves.

Failing that, googling the specific pose you're looking for to use as a reference is also good. Remember, it's important to get a grasp of real-world anatomy before starting to work on a style.

Someone should sic another Clefairy at them.

edited 24th Oct '16 4:00:13 PM by Psychedelicate

Like it says in the image description I already did that.

These westboro guys are making a real name for themselves. They must have worked hard to concentrate so much (insert whatever prejudice against LGBT is called) into a single church. They seem to be turning themselves into their own little protest group.

Oh, sorry. Didn't read that bit.

Well, ultimately it's all just a matter of practice and experience. Same as any skill, really.

I mean yes there's some definite improvement when compared to my much older stuff.

Should I upload a selfie as an avatar? I know not many people around here do so, but hey...

If you want, sure.

It uploaded sideways. What the hell.

So buying stuff for other projects has left me with a choice about which Senshi costume to make◊. And I don't know what to do. Gah.

Do Mars.

Do it.

I mean I did already find a good pair of shoes for her.

Except I've never worn open heels.

Uh...

Crap.

Don't worry.

It'll look fine.