Unclear: Absurdly Youthful Mother

Absurdly Youthful Father is a redirect, so we could also add the 23 year old father with his 10 year old daughter from Astarotte No Omocha, for a Gender-Inverted Example that also an example of the actually improbable age, not just the looks.

edited 16th May '11 12:06:25 PM by EternalSeptember

I like this one(NSFW site) Setsuna posted earlier. With some cropping and repositioning, it would be perfect, as it shows the whole Absurdly Youthful Family.

Everybody here is Completely Missing The Point. I believe that an anime image won't work, because to people like me, who aren't fans, the age differences between the characters aren't clear at all. All of these characters, regardless of age, look like they have the exact same faces. This is why I suggested a live action image.

I have to agree with redhead. The anime images look a lot more like "I can only draw one face" than this trope. The tiny kid has the exact same face as the adult. It just looks like the artist can't draw faces.

edited 16th May '11 12:32:14 PM by shimaspawn

No, you suggested suggesting live action images. If you want a live action image, the burden is on you to provide possibilities. I'm not going to go search them out for you.

I imagine something like... a woman with a school uniform being pregnant or attending to a baby's needs. Would that work? With a visual shorthand like that the issue of art style may be avoided.

Although it would lack the Fridge Logic element, so maybe a bad idea.

I really don't think this trope is about teen pregnancy per se, and making the visual image about that would just encourage that interpretation.

"the issue of art style" is not an issue, as the description points out, it can be a legit cause of the trope.

Yes. I realised it halfway, but went "what the hell, I'll post it anyway."

According to the article, there are some flavours:

• Actual parent-child relations with small age difference
  • Pregnancy at a young age is clearly implied or stated
  • Parent remarriage, adoption, or gained custody through other means
• Parent and child ages (or looks) are somehow modified
  • Children are born, then their age is retconned.
  • Time Travel, Magic, Bizarre Alien Biology or Immortality are involved
• No actual small age difference between the characters
  • The parent looks younger, or the child looks older
• Others

So I agree that it's not an issue, those would be legitimate examples, however still not very illustrative and can be misleading. Personally I would prefer that we have some dialogues (this calls for comics of some sort) to make it clearer.

If we can only make it clearer with text, we could as well do it with a caption on the current one or the already suggested alternatives, rather than to replace it with an ugly black & white manga panel.

edited 17th May '11 11:03:45 AM by EternalSeptember

The one Heatth pointed out, rotated and cropped. View image for full size

If I haven't watched Clannad, I'd have assumed that one of them was an aunt instead of the grandmother and I would be wondering what's so absurdly youthful about the pic.

that's the point

No, what he's saying is that no one in the pic looks too young to have a baby. There is no one obviously absurdly youthful in it. Not with the age of the child. That kid doesn't look more than 18 months old at that size. Parents in the early twenties for a kid that age is completely normal.

Yes, exactly.

edited 17th May '11 4:26:46 PM by Servbot

What about the picture of the example that's even mentioned on the trope page: The girl who gave birth at 5 years old?

That really isn't this trope

That's a text book example of this trope. A five year old having a kid is a perfect example. The picture on the other hand looks like a father with his two children out of context.

We could always edit him out...

She'll look like the kid's sister... but then we can use the "that's the point" argument.

Here's the thing, the trope is Absurdly Youthful Mother, not Absurdly Young Mother. The latter might be a trope, but its not this trope.

The point of the trope is that the mother looks young, ie "youthful", she may or may not have been unusually young when she had the child, but at the time the story is taking place, she's an adult.

A 16 year old with an infant is not this trope. A 32 year old with a 16 year old son is, a 40 year old with a 16 year old daughter, who looks like her daughter's older sister is this trope.

I think the description could stand to be cleaned up bit. We might need a new trope for parents who are, in fact, very young at the moment.

edited 17th May '11 7:28:40 PM by SakurazakiSetsuna

According to the current trope description, both the pregnant five year old, and the 30 year old that looks 16 having a kid are this trope. Please read the trope description. It's not what you seem to think it is.

I did. I think that the trope is confused, and these are two separate concepts that should not be smashed together, they have very, very different connotations in a story.

That's a matter for TRS not here. You can't go around declaring something as not the trope when the trope definition specifically says it is without going through a formal proposal to change it.

Because I didn't know the trope was unclear until I looked into it?

Its hardly unusual for this sort of thing to happen.

ALSO NO ONE ELSE HAS SUGGESTED IMAGES.