Needs Expanding: Lethal Lava Land

The trope is specifically described as a Video Game trope, and indeed most of the examples are gaming-related. However, I think that's too narrow and should be expanded, while also giving the Video Game examples a separate page, because there are too many.

Also, the description should include some ideas of how this can happen and some reasons why it's ridiculous.

Against. It's part of the Standard Video Game Levels horde. Combined with the fact that you apparently want to expand change the trope and then move all the video game examples to a different page, why not just make a new trope?

Agreed. This is a very specific video game trope. If you think there should be a similar non-videogame trope, YKTTW it.

Whats with the sudden rash of people trying to turn VG tropes into more general tropes?

For the most part, we don't really do medium specific tropes as there aren't that many mediums where one element of story telling is unique. Video Games are one of the few areas where this is semi-true.

Its incredibly true for Videogames.

People keep trying to shoehorn obviously unrelated, non-videogame examples into tropes which by their nature basically can't have non-videogame examples.

We have more problems with people trying to write tropes to exclusive to their medium than the other way around.

Right, and I agree, except for with videogames, where medium specific tropes are quite common.

Video Game tropes often overlap with Table Top Game tropes, and Board Game tropes, but beyond that, there are things that happen in videogames that just can't happen in other mediums.

In other words, 'gaming' has very different tropes of other non interactive media.

Btw, ginsengaddict, you messed up with the article link. There shouldn't be an spaces between the words. You should use just the Wiki Words. Fixed already.

edited 13th May '11 12:53:54 AM by Heatth

If that's the case, then we probably should just tweak it so that it's a trope in games in general, and not specifically video games (as a side note; I concur - I can think of various Dungeons And Dragons modules taking place in/near such a place, and I can think of at least one board game that did so - Fireball Run).

I think parodies also count don't they? When it's work that's set in a videogame or something?

Right. I'm not saying its impossible for videogame tropes to show up in other media, but its going to be in a fairly specific set of circumstances.

I believe this particular one do not appear in other gaming media, though. It is a level trope. Tabletop RPG don't use 'levels' as much(not in the same way, anyway). Nor does other tabletop games.

The entire Film, Literature, Western Animation, and Real Life sections are all bad and should be removed.

I must have missed this back when more responses came in.

Tabletop games may not have "levels," per se, but they do have modules, which often do act functionally like level amalgamations - for lack of a better term, "worlds" as they're used in Super Mario Bros. And I've seen the "go into the active/potentially active volcano to fight the red dragon" piece of a module plenty of times. Not to mention any adventure that involves the Elemental Plane of Fire in Dungeons And Dragons. Theoretically, convection is supposed to happen in these areas. Theoretically.

I have to disagree here. There's no problem with Real Life and literature as far as I can see.

the real life examples are all about the super trope: everything is cooler with lava.

Not exactly. The Real Life section of Everything's Cooler With Lava seems to be rather...short of volcanoes. And most Real Life examples of Lethal Lava Land do not seem to imply Coolness as much as those from Everything's Cooler With Lava.

Lethal Lava Land is about a world/level of lava that do not harm player characters unless they actually touch the lava.

Everything's Cooler With Lava is about "adding lava makes it cooler!"

The lava land entries for real life belong in cooler with lava because they don't have characters walking around next to the lava.

A video game-only trope?

What happened with the "tropes are univesal" motto?

Meh, why even bothering asking? =/

Some tropes depend on mechanics.

Convection, Schmonvection isn't a requirement.

The description needs to be edited to show the convection is not a requirement.

Even when convection is maintained, you can still have the character in proximity. Said proximity is simply many meters away, but not kilometers. The point that I understand, from reading the description, is that this trope happens when you add lava to a scene with people. The real life examples don't do that.

edited 8th Dec '11 9:58:04 PM by crazysamaritan

It strikes me that Lethal Lava Land is indeed simply the video game version of Everything's Cooler With Lava, and that Convection, Schmonvection often but not necessarily overlaps with either of those.

Lethal Lava Land is an entire world of Everything's Cooler With Lava. It's when there's so much of the trope that the trope itself becomes a setting. It also has stock enemies and stock mechanics.

Stock Video Game Settings are a thing. This is a subtrope of that. A lot like how Playing with Fire is a subtrope of Elemental Powers that doesn't include just any use of fire as a weapon.