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Gillespie Talkative Loon from Western Canada Since: Sep, 2011
#51: Oct 7th 2011 at 12:16:28 PM

Against a rename. This is chiefly a videogame trope, and most videogame-literate people will recognize the source of the name. In my honest opinion I don't see why renaming every single work-or-character-dependant name is such a knee-jerk reaction, like renaming just for the sake of renaming. If I don't recognise a name, I'd just check the meaning/source on the page description. ANYWAY, RANT OVER, DISREGARD :D

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#52: Oct 7th 2011 at 12:17:57 PM

Mah boi, this rename is not what all true tropers strive for!

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Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#53: Oct 7th 2011 at 2:00:03 PM

@Gillespie: Failing to read a trope before linking to it, and linking to it based on what the name sounds like by itself (again, without reading it) is surprisingly common practice in the wiki. Are they linking because the trope actually applies, or just linking because the name is popular? The latter creates evidence in favor of renaming.

For example of misuse, Dodongo Dislikes Smoke is not just "Kill It With Bombs", it's "Feed It A Bomb Sandwich".

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#54: Oct 7th 2011 at 2:03:22 PM

...Where does the trope name come from anyway? I don't recall that line from the original game at least. If it came from there I'd expect it to be called Dodongo Dislikes Bombs. Or what, it was Navi who gave that piece of information?

I'd support a rename.

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#55: Oct 7th 2011 at 2:06:33 PM

Especially considering with the small ones you tend to wack their tails until they die, it's really not the best thing. The only one you bomb is the huge boss one.

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Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#56: Oct 7th 2011 at 3:00:40 PM

@Silent: It was most definitely the original games, hinting that the only way to kill the bosses of Level 2 were to drop bombs in front of them (because they're immune to just about everything else). If they swallow the bomb they take damage; alternately, if they don't swallow the bomb but are just caught in the blast radius they get stunned and (only then) you can damage them with your sword.

edited 7th Oct '11 3:00:46 PM by Stratadrake

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Gillespie Talkative Loon from Western Canada Since: Sep, 2011
#57: Oct 7th 2011 at 4:49:25 PM

Ocarina Of Time was most definitly not the original game, that would be Zelda1 for the NES. That's where the quote is from, NOT the N64 game.

edited 7th Oct '11 4:50:37 PM by Gillespie

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#58: Oct 12th 2011 at 12:04:45 AM

Crowner is supporting a rename so far. Alt-title brainstorming time! Preferably ones that won't be confused with Eat the Bomb. Throw A Bomb In Its Mouth? Feed It a Bomb? Feed It Dynamite?

Rhymes with "Protracted."
SomeSortOfTroper Since: Jan, 2001
#59: Oct 12th 2011 at 2:19:49 AM

This is one case where I really appreciate the spooniness of the redirect Throw A Bomb In Its Mouth. That's it. That's what the description says. Feed It a Bomb also works.

[pedantic] Oh but you might not be throwing it. But you might not be feeding it. Hmm- well, "feeding" can also be used for shoving something in as well as just tricking them whereas throwing it has either the literal meaning or the suggestion that one is being casual about it and there's nothing really casual about getting a monster to swallow an explosive. [/pedantic]

I'll call for an Alternative Titles crowner because this thread is old and unlikely to get a flood for one way or another and I'm sure it will probably just boil down to minor points that don't make any impression on how it just sounds to us.

Here's the crowner.

edited 12th Oct '11 2:21:15 AM by SomeSortOfTroper

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#60: Oct 14th 2011 at 5:17:58 AM

Crowner hasn't changed much so I'll call it tomorrow after this one last call for votes.

SomeSortOfTroper Since: Jan, 2001
#61: Oct 15th 2011 at 3:00:05 PM

I've renamed it. There's nothing on the discussion but I don't know how to deal with the parent settings for Dodongo Dislikes Smoke and to remove it from Stuff Blowing Up's list.

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#62: Oct 15th 2011 at 3:04:43 PM

[up]Stuff Blowing Up was set as an index, rather than an indexing supertrope. I've fixed that and corrected the relation graph.

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#65: Oct 15th 2011 at 5:42:41 PM

I'm a little dissapointed that we forgot about Bomb Apateit for a possible name.

But life goes on.

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Camacan from Australiatown Since: Jan, 2001
#66: Oct 15th 2011 at 9:12:30 PM

The call for locking was a tad premature. 65 wicks remaining. Unlocking.

troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#67: Oct 15th 2011 at 9:34:15 PM

[up][up] Eat the Bomb is a different trope.

Rhymes with "Protracted."
Osmium from Germany Since: Dec, 2010
#68: Oct 16th 2011 at 12:32:31 AM

Why is a trope with such an high amount of examples from all media written and indexed as Videogame specific?

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#69: Oct 16th 2011 at 8:45:00 AM

@Dr Starky: probably because people don't know how to spell that properly.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#70: Oct 16th 2011 at 7:48:22 PM

Why is a trope with such an high amount of examples from all media written and indexed as Videogame specific?

Because many of the people who write trope descriptions are gushing twits who don't know how to write a proper description if it was to save their lives.

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#71: Oct 16th 2011 at 7:49:54 PM

Osmium, as you may have noticed, a lot of descriptions are unnecessarily fan myopic in one way or another. This has some of us rather annoyed.

Osmium from Germany Since: Dec, 2010
#72: Oct 21st 2011 at 7:15:14 AM

So far all wicks are cleand.The only thing left is rewriting the description to be not videogame specific and finding a few nice indices.

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#73: Oct 21st 2011 at 10:25:18 AM

On a sidenote, shouldn't the page image be potholed to Ocarina Of Time?

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6th Oct '11 11:32:50 AM

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Dodongo Dislikes Smoke

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