What ideal do you consider most romantic?

Define "romantic" as you see fit. This need not be an ideal in which you actually believe.

For me, it's transhumanism. I went so far as to buy and wear a scarab amulet because it made me think of the potential science has for the metaphorical rebirth of humanity. Then I read stuff like this, and I'm inevitably brought back down to Earth for a little while.

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Oh ideal...

That will take some time to think. I was going to say "Sitting around or going about my daily routine while my lover goes through theirs"...

MUST THINK.

edited 1st May '11 10:16:41 PM by Aondeug

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Probably the semi-chivalrous friendship and trust you see in The Lord Of The Rings. I'm a sucker for it.

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Huh? If we are to answer your question, it needs to be with regards to your definition of "romantic". To come up with our own definitions would amount to answering some unrelated question.

The first thing I think of when I hear the word is this. I'm not much of an art history buff though so I don't actually know much about it. So... Frankenstein I guess.

The appropriate Roman ideals are...pietas, dignitas and virtus, oh wait, you didn't say Romanic.

NVM.

edited 1st May '11 10:50:43 PM by blueharp

The Romans had always favored martial courage, wisdom and strength of characters alongside with obedience, humility and respect for authority.

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They were doing so well with values and then...

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Living in basically poverty after college, barely supporting yourself on some sort of art thing, having a short affair (or a marriage followed by a divorce) with someone historically unremarkable, dying relatively young (like say, 30s, 40s) in obscurity, and then being praised as a genius decades after you die. That's word association, mind, not something I'd enjoy.

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I want that life. I really do.

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Emotional closeness.

Rome is certainly romantic but their war happy nature is not something I would like for myself. Perhaps either the ideals of classic Greece and Rome are very romantic. Japan is insanely romantic I think. Especially their ideas relating to suicide. Double suicide is like the epitome of romance. Killing oneself to make up for failure to live up to your duties is very romantic too... As is killing oneself to prevent being caught by one's enemies. Then you have the idea of the kamikaze... Then there is anything related to giving oneself up for the sake of the whole. Oooh...

Basically Japan's crazy death monk (Korgy thank you for that phrase, it is endlessly amusing) ideals are the most romantic thing in the world to me. Would I want them for myself and do I believe in them?

...not particularly.

edited 1st May '11 11:14:07 PM by Aondeug

If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah

I like ubermenschen, and Valhalla, that sort of thing. Love Martyr isn't as appealing anymore.

I dunno, killing Mongols with a hurricane is still cool.

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Yes it is...oh Japan...You sexy beast you...

WHY DO YOU HAVE TO BE SO BATSHIT?!

If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah

-reads comic-

Poor Yudkowsky...

In any case, I consider self sacrifice to be the most romantic, specifically sacrificial love (Christ's loving sacrifice would be the best example here).

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The Japanese Archipelago uses Kamikaze!

It is super effective!

Mongol Invasion Fleet has fainted!

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Call this bastardly of me, but sometimes I wish Japan had gotten conquered by the Mongols for a bit. I mean, China was under Mongol control for a while, and they did okay. Besides, it may have made Japan a touch less xenophobic.

Well, you apparently missed out what happened to China during Mongol occupation. Suffice to say, being considered quite literally the lowest possible living thing to walk the earth apart from animals did not bid quite well to the Chinese people. All it took was a bout of famine and pestilence and we have the Red Turban Revolt.

*politely points in the direction of the History thread*

edited 1st May '11 11:58:25 PM by ArgeusthePaladin

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Yeah, but they got out of it eventually. Not saying it didn't suck, but the world, particularly the twentieth century, might have gone a lot better if Japan was less xenophobic.

Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

"You can only come to the morning through the shadows."

"'Tis a sweet and seemly thing to die for one's homeland."

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^ Inb4 someone starts quoting Dulce et Decorum Est at you. (Not that I personally have any objection to your sentiment, mind you . . .)

edited 2nd May '11 1:12:57 AM by feotakahari

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Nietzsche's Uber Mensch and Lord Byron's Byronic Hero are my romantic ideals, mix them together and...

Most likely cause both are rebellious but idealistic souls. (I'm using souls to mean personalities due to my lack of faith in actual spirits but soul sounds more romantic though this exposition is effectively killing any romanticism.)

edited 2nd May '11 1:29:22 AM by Vyctorian

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Probably the one I attempt to live by, courtesy of my religous upbringing. Love is all, pacifism except under the most dire circumstances, forgiveness is possible for everyone, love the sinner hate the sin, etcetera.

Be not afraid...