Strange disambig page: Twilight

Okay, now this is a disambiguation page. But I can't help but think that it completely ignores what disambiguation pages are for.

Almost everything on that page is something that has the word "Twilight" in it, but which nobody with any sense would look for or link to. (Do you really think someone who wants The Twilight Zone will enter "Twilight"? Or that anyone's going to be looking for the Twilight Lady from Watchmen?)

The page should be limited to

• Things actually named Twilight that we have pages for (the sparkly vampire series and the Chaykin comic), along with associated character pages and such
• Things actually named Twilight (or shortened to Twilight) that people could expect us to have pages for (the musical groups and songs)
• One joke entry such as the last one about the time of day—these should not take over the page.

The current page reads as if the author is playing a game to think up as many things as he can rather than trying to make it useful.

Agreed. Though amusing, it seems to be missing the point of a disambiguation page and could easily scare people off due to its length.

edited 25th Apr '11 3:04:00 PM by KrisMahai

The hell is up with that page? Even Wikipedia's disambiguation pages don't usually give you this much randomness. Please keep it to things we actually have pages for and that people are reasonably likely to search for using "Twilight".

I thought it was supposed to be a joke with Wikipedia disambig pages. Note that the two more important pages are right in the top.

We should, at very last, restrain ourself to things we actually have pages for, though.

edited 25th Apr '11 4:17:46 PM by Heatth

This is nothing out of the ordinary for a disambiguation page. Look at Avatar, for example.

The disambig page was originally one of the description paragraphs on the Twilight page, but whoever created the current Twilight page decided to savange the joke. Personally, I think it's quite amusing, since the title is one word that is commonly used. That's considered bad titling in some circles, but...

edited 25th Apr '11 6:00:49 PM by chihuahua0

Twilight, I only meant to stay a while~...

I think it's great, wouldn't change a thing.

People have added to the Avatar page a bit, but it was intended to be just works and tropes. (I should know, I wrote it.) Monster was written with a similar idea in mind. I'm of the opinion that should be the general rule, and not a collection ground for all the random things that happen to contain the name (like some My Little Pony character being called Twilight).

If the page containing the disambiguated word also has elements of trope, like Avatar, I recommend that people round up the similar sub-elements and toss them onto YKTTW, to make a trope that can then be linked to that disambig.

This is true. Monster has one joke entry, but it's the last entry at the bottom of the page and there's just one. The rest are all valid.

Er. I just inadvertantly reinstated the My Little Pony character not realising she'd been removed. >_>

In my defence, I think she belongs there if we're keeping the characters section, since she occupies a more prominent place in the franchise than the Buffy character of the same name occupies in the Buffy The Vampire Slayer franchise.

Do we perhaps need a more general discussion of disambiguation page style? Personally, I like our current approach; maybe the pages are a little random, but the Avatar and Twilight pages, at least, are generally listed in order of likelihood that anyone will be looking for them, and they're both informative and fun, which I think suits the Wiki's informal style.

There's informal and then there's taking the joke too far. I say ax the character sections, unless it's one of those characters with their own articles that we probably only have a dozen of anyway. And the references to episode titles, since we don't have articles for episodes either.

I do think that we should keep the bands and the works, even the bands and works we don't have pages for. It might encourage people to research them and make pages.

We do have recap pages for individual episodes. There aren't many, but they're there and they're in an official namespace.

So how is the split organized again? *takes a second look*

edited 26th Apr '11 3:31:14 PM by Stratadrake

My understanding of the recap pages is that they're conducted without much attention from anyone who isn't a fan of the given show...they're kinda off mission and not something the wiki at large focuses on, but no one minds them. I don't agree that episode titles should be included in the disambig, but an exception could be made if it has a recap page and is therefore apt to be searched. (Then again, people might see them and assume other episode titles are ok.)

We could also just link to The Other Wiki or IMDB as part of the disambig, as a form of "any we don't cover might be mentioned here" pointer.

Linking to other sites makes it less likely someone will start a new article than just leaving the titles redlinked. The primary goal of our work pages is not to provide general information, but to show the tropes used within it.

edited 27th Apr '11 3:18:24 AM by Killomatic