Rename: If You Should Die Before You Wake

Nor do I. I think it's still this trope if it's the king in his castle being watched by the royal healers, the mobster in the hospital, or the knight in the abbey. It's not so much a hospital as the sort of care and supervision a hospital provides and thus a hospital is the most common location in modern works.

edited 30th Apr '11 7:48:23 PM by shimaspawn

Those are the main points I see in it, so I can agree with that definition. Maybe rather than "preferably in a coma" put it "comatose is common for this trope"

For the name I wonder if "Hospital Hit" would be unnecessarily narrow as a name. I suspect not, considering how many editors cheerfully ignore specific names in favor of generalizing the trope. We'll probably need to be on the lookout for entries that treat "not a hospital, exactly" as "variant" or "subverted; the character isn't comatose or in a hospital..."

edited 30th Apr '11 7:57:30 PM by Madrugada

I think it would. We've established that it doesn't have to be a hospital. Just that sort of environment. It sounds artificially narrower than it should be.

Necrobump.

This name is horribly non-indicative, and makes a reasonably common trope very difficult to search for. And by the looks of it, we already have a consensus for a rename, so now all we need is a new title.

Locked the single prop at +11 (12 - 1) in favor of a rename. Unhooked.

Now we need some alternative name suggestions.

The trope is that "someone who is ill or injured and in a place where they could reasonably expect to be safe under medical care is attacked or killed."

edited 20th Jun '11 3:02:55 PM by Madrugada

Whoops,ignore me.

edited 20th Jun '11 3:41:50 PM by Ultimatum

I made an alternative titles crowner here. I realize that we do not yet have many options on the crowner, but I thought that making a crowner might encourage people to come up with more of them.

Feel free to point out any errors I may have made in making that crowner by the way.

edited 28th Jun '11 7:11:41 AM by LouieW

Thanks, Louie.

Of the two currently on the Crowner, I much prefer Sickbed Slaying. It describes the trope well without being overly restricted like Hospital Hit is (though that might still make a good redirect, for searchability purposes). Not so sure about Coma Comeuppance, because it's the in hospital/recuperating part that's the key to the trope, not them being in a coma. So that name seems misleading.

edited 28th Jun '11 7:49:33 AM by TheJackal

Bump.

So, the few votes the crowner has are showing a clear consensus for Sickbed Slaying. Should we do the rename now or wait to get more than ten total votes first?

The Jackal,

My general rule of thumb is that if a crowner option is clearly dominating the other ones, has no down votes after a week, and is hovering around the 9/10 vote range it is probably safe to take action. That is just me though, other people may have different ideas about that.

I copied If You Should Die Before You Wake's description onto Sickbed Slaying, fixed the indexes, fixed the wicks, sent a report about moving the discussion page, added a note on the Renamed Tropes page, and made If You Should Die Before You Wake a redirect.

Feel free to check my work and tell me if I made any mistakes in the rename process.

edited 5th Jul '11 4:55:41 PM by LouieW

Thanks, Louie. I'll bear that in mind for next time. And the rename looks good, so I guess we're done here.

Thanks Louie, locking.