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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#1: Apr 10th 2011 at 11:52:03 PM

Golden Age redirects to The Golden Age Of Comic Books. Thing is, A) Golden Age has a specific general meaning a period of great happiness, prosperity, and achievement. This in turn relates to several tropes we have (Ptitler6tvpmsc and The Time of Myths come to mind). B) we have several articles on historical golden ages:

As well as TWO work pages:

This NEEDS to be a disambiguation page. As it's an ALL too used title to be monopolized by one page.

edited 10th Apr '11 11:58:58 PM by Ghilz

Heatth from Brasil Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#2: Apr 11th 2011 at 12:09:34 AM

It can also be made a trope for fictional golden ages (as well as real ones that don't got a page). One Piece has its own "Golden Age of Pirates", for example.

Naturally, it should also list the current 'golden age' tropes.

Ironeye Cutmaster-san from SoCal Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
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#3: Apr 11th 2011 at 12:14:56 AM

For the record, the thread about the various Ages of superhero comics decided that this was to be the fate of the page—there just wasn't sufficient interest in actually making it at the time.

edited 11th Apr '11 12:15:09 AM by Ironeye

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#4: Apr 11th 2011 at 5:34:38 AM

Agreed with the suggestion that it should at the very least be a disambiguation page. It's wasteful that the page would just be a redirect at this point.

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suedenim Teutonic Tomboy T-Girl from Jet Dream HQ Since: Oct, 2009
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#5: Apr 11th 2011 at 6:41:35 AM

[up][up]Yeah, I thought we'd done that already, actually. FWIW, there's been significant movement in changing occurrences of simply "Golden Age" to the verbose The Golden Age Of Comic Books, at any rate.

edited 11th Apr '11 6:42:21 AM by suedenim

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#6: Apr 11th 2011 at 6:56:16 AM

I like the idea of a trope for Golden Ages, but I'm not positive it should get the Golden Age page. People are used to using it for The Golden Age Of Comic Books and, as pointed out, there are a lot of related pages. It would be prone to misuse, IMO.

My tentative suggestion is make a trope for The Golden Age Of X (or whatever) and make Golden Age a disambig.

edited 11th Apr '11 6:56:42 AM by ccoa

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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#7: Apr 11th 2011 at 7:02:10 AM

Since Ironeye says it's been discussed and agreed before, I just went and turned Golden Age into a disambiguation page

Heatth from Brasil Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#8: Apr 11th 2011 at 8:44:42 AM

[up][up]The Golden Age page could work as both the trope and the disambig. I mean, it would define what a 'Golden Age' is anyway. Why not add some examples to it?

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#9: Apr 11th 2011 at 9:03:52 AM

[up] That might be akward. it's already a pretty big disambig page. It has to split between Six pages (not counting suptropes) atm. Tagging an actual trope on top of that may make it feel a bit schizophrenic what with the paragraph-long disambiguation.

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#10: Apr 11th 2011 at 9:24:03 AM

[up] It's really not that long a Disambig page. A lot of them are far longer, and most of them would really count as sublistings for the trope in any case. I can't find anything on that page that we wouldn't have to be listed on the main trope page again anyway.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#11: Apr 11th 2011 at 9:34:40 AM

A trope would presumably be about fictional golden ages, wouldn't it? I don't think the golden age... tropes would be subtropes, in that case.

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#12: Apr 11th 2011 at 9:37:06 AM

[up] No, they wouldn't be subtropes, but they would still be listings of the exact same information, just more specific. Subpages for the less fictional examples if you would.

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Ironeye Cutmaster-san from SoCal Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
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#13: Apr 11th 2011 at 9:49:11 AM

@sue, ccoa: There used to be over 500 wicks for it as the comic books version. Several months ago, I changed all the wicks to the (then new) main page, leaving only the ones that referred to the Golden Age as a concept not specifically related to comic books. I don't know if any new such wicks have emerged since then, but most of the wicks should be pointing to the correct page.

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Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#14: Apr 11th 2011 at 9:59:56 PM

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=e8ipxm7mzk3nuv32cf0cdjj3

One of my "I swear I was gonna launch this and just didn't make time" projects. If there's serious interest among people here, I'll let it go Up For Grabs.

Heatth from Brasil Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#15: Apr 12th 2011 at 1:16:58 AM

[up]This is more or less what I was thinking on. If we create a Golden Age trope (which seems likely, since there is fictional examples), we would have to link to the other Golden Age pages anyway, with a "Not to be confused with" note in the end. Having a trope and a disambig at the same time is pointless.

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#16: Apr 12th 2011 at 1:26:54 AM

[up]Sounds like the best option to me.

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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#17: Apr 12th 2011 at 4:52:43 AM

[up][up][up] That can work, but the disambiguation is missing the work pages for The Golden Age and Golden Age Of Adventurers

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#18: Apr 12th 2011 at 8:01:24 AM

Only because I didn't know they existed: they can certainly be shoved in.

jaytee jt from honolulu, hi Since: Mar, 2011
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#19: Apr 13th 2011 at 3:05:25 PM

I was unsure abou the concept, but so far I like Elle's proposed page the best. Launch ASAP, as far as im concerned.

btw, until the new page launches, i made a small edit on the existing disambig page (which is already reflected in elle's page): namely, golden ages of specific media really have nothing to do with the generic "a period of happiness and prosperity" definiton. rather, they reflect the period of time right after a medium has evolved from novelty to art form.

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