Hela is evil, but Odin made her that way. She's basically his attack dog coming back to bite him in the ass.
If a chicken crosses the road and nobody else is around to see it, does the road move beneath the chicken instead?I only ever knew Black Manta as one of the guys on the Legion of Doom and, good gravy, that origin story. Someone keep those Aquaman comics away from Jenny McCarthy, please!
edited 16th Jun '18 1:48:58 PM by ThriceCharming
Is that a Wocket in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?By the way, did they say whether Aquaman took place before or after JL?
According to people who saw the original sizzle reel (which is still yet to be online), there's a passing reference made to the events of JL.
I don't know how likely it's gonna happen (very unlikely I reckon), but it'd be awesome if we had Aya in some capacity...
RE: Aquaman: Sounds like it'll be awesome. Probably helps that A) my introduction to Aquaman was the first Justice League cartoon, so it never occurred to me he was a laughingstock, and B) I already thought Aquaman was a blast in the JL movie so it's all good here!
edited 16th Jun '18 8:51:25 PM by TargetmasterJoe
One of the good things that the New 52 did imo was to make Orm into a more nuanced, interesting character. He has layers and while you might not agree with him, you can kind of understand his POV on things. Also he's not completely without compassion/empathy either. And thankfully that characterization seems to have carried over into the Rebirth stuff as well.
It makes him far more interesting and if the film is going for more of that approach, then I'd be all for it.
Toby Emmerich: He’s a franchise maker and builder. I would give him credit for what became known as The Conjuring universe. He initiated the Saw franchise. And he initiated the Insidious franchise. And he built on the Fast and Furious franchise — his film [Furious 7] was the highest grossing one. So when you think of franchise makers and franchise builders there are not many people who have that resume. That alone makes him an inspired choice. And he’s also made many movies as a director and producer for us at Warner Bros. and at New Line. So we know him really well. William Goldman wrote my favorite book on moviemaking, Adventures in the Screen Trade, and he wrote, “make movies with people you like, because it’s really hard, so it’s easier if you really like them.” And we really like James. These movies are monsters. So when you have a director you really like, and who likes you as a company and a culture, it’s a happier experience and, more often than not, a better movie.
EW: What made the Dec 21 date the right time to release it?
TE: I didn’t pick the date. The honest answer is we’re excited about the movie, we want to release it as soon as we can, and that’s the soonest it can be ready for a giant tentpole date. The world is changing — look at Black Panther, that came out in February — so any date can be a tentpole date. But this is the soonest that it can be ready and we’re happy it didn’t miss the year.
EW: For decades Aquaman was this mocked character in pop culture, in places like Entourage and other shows. What’s the most worried thought about Aquaman you’ll admit to having?
TE: My most worried thought is it won’t be ready in time. I thought it was a clever gag in Entourage. I think it works as a gag. But I know it works as a movie. I know the character and the world is worthy of a movie. One doesn’t undermine the other to me.
EW: Coming off Justice League, how important is it that this movie works?
TE: It’s important. It’s important that it works. I think everybody really worked very hard to make a really good movie. It’s an expensive movie. We believe this movie can work and we’re going to do everything we can as a company — distribution, marketing everything — to make sure it’s successful around the world
EW: There have obviously been changes behind the scenes at the company since Justice League. Is there anything philosophically different now in terms of approaching the creative on DC Films versus a year or two ago?
TE: I want to focus on Aquaman. Aquaman is a bit of a bridge movie yet there is still the connective tissue to the DC movies. But just like how [director Patty Jenkins] brought her own sensibility to Wonder Woman — yet it was very connected [to Justice League] — that movie was very much a Patty Jenkins movie this is very much a James Wan movie.
EW: The tone of Aquaman from the footage I’ve seen is a bit lighter and has more humor than Zack Synder’s movies were known for. Was there a conscious decision to shift away from that?
TE: If you spend time with James and [Aquaman star Jason Momoa], they brought themselves to the party. They very instinctively were who they were when making this movie. And that comes through in the tone of this movie. But I don’t think it was a reaction to what had come before. I think it was them being true to themselves. … I’ll tell you this: I have two girls, 10 and 14, and they’re so quick to tell me what movies are going to bomb — my movies, other people’s movies…
EW: Are they right?
TE: They’re shockingly right more than I would have thought. Kids are closer to the zeitgeist, everything is a raw nerve ending, they pick up on so many cultural subtleties it constantly blows my mind. I showed them the Aquaman trailer and I’m enthused and excited that they’re so excited for Aquaman.
EW: When you look at how the last few superhero films in general performed, is there any kind of conclusion to be drawn about what type of films are working now?
TE: I think the good movies work better. Somebody once said the best business strategy in motion pictures in quality. And I think in a world of Rotten Tomatoes and social media, what’s been proven the better the movie — particularly in the superhero genre — the better it performs. You can’t hide the bacon anymore.
EW: It’s interesting you say that because [DC Films] has had some titles that have done very well at the box office, but there’s been a Rotten Tomatoes debate about them. Some have wondered how important is it that such movies are critically successful, and it sounds like you’re saying it really does matter.
TE: I would say no matter what, the better the movie is the more advantage it is. Now when you’re talking about art, I do believe that it’s tough to judge art at the moment when its presented to the world. My father was very involved in the arts, he was always taking me to museums and galleries and historical buildings. He believed any kind of art — whether it’s fashion or sculpture or architecture or filmmaking or music — it takes 20 years to judge the quality of something. Twenty years after Sgt. Pepper or Born to Run comes out, then you can understand what that album was. I guess when I say “quality,” I don’t want to judge anybody’s movies completely at the moment of release. But I would say there are movies that are right for their time, that an audience is ready for, that’s in sync with the zeitgeist, and I think you need a movie whose quality is recognized at the moment of release so it’s in touch with the culture of the moment. We’re at a unique moment around the planet and certain types of movies are working better than others at this moment of time. And I do think Aquaman will sync up with the global culture zeitgeist of what’s happening right now.
edited 18th Jun '18 6:15:02 PM by comicwriter
comicwriter:....yeah no, let no pretend is anything else but "is going to be like zack sydner?" since the question have being throw almost three times already.
And abotu villians....conquerer villians are usually dumb, usually no carry by back story but by hamminess, Hela backstory is underused and she is fun by the actress, Ronan is hamming and that it, Stepphenwolf lack that and therefore is bad.
So far, the only two villian who dosent get crap like that is Thanos, because is "lets kill half of everything" and Branian in other media because is "I want information", but aside of that? bland every single one of them.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"I haven't the faintest idea what you're referring to.
Is all that bad grammar suppose to be intentional?
edited 19th Jun '18 4:28:41 PM by GamerManDrew
No, he's Venezuelan. English is not his first language.
https://theplaylist.net/joaquin-phoenix-joker-jared-leto-20180622/
The Playlist: Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker May Be Involved In Matt Reeves’ ‘Batman’ Films
It seems WB are using Joaquin as they're last hope to save the Joker. I'm guessing that means that film won't be connected to the DCEU? Or was that already confirmed? It's hard to keep track of the canon.
Maybe they're going the DC Rebirth route by having multiple Jokers running around. As far as I can tell, the comics haven't followed up that plot point yet, but it could be an explanation they use for the films.
Not sure if this was brought up, but there's other things of note, like:
- Harley's getting a new costume. (Classic jester bodysuit, please?)
- No clue who's also showing, but Batgirl is likely.
- Katana might show, alongside Black Canary, Huntress, Catwoman, Hawkgirl, Power Girl, Poison Ivy, and Vixen. (Emphasis on "MIGHT", could've sworn there was a rumor saying no to Catwoman and Ivy.)
- Margot Robbie calls it an "R-rated girl gang film".
The clearest look at Aquaman's new costume◊, as well as the Black Manta◊ suit.
Seems pretty comic-accurate to me.
Due to Ron Cephas-Jones having to bow out due to scheduling conflicts, Djimon Hounsou is now playing the Wizard in Shazam.
... that's a really fucking weird choice.
Race Lift aside, he's like... way younger than I would expect for Shazam.
... wait, what's the wizard going to be named? Is he no longer named Shazam since Captain Marvel is Shazam?
Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.In the comics, the wizard is now called Mamaragan.
Mamaragan is now black in the comics, so it's not really a Race Lift if it's following that continuity.
Joaquin Phoenix's Joker origin movie is officially a go.
The Joker origin movie is officially a go at Warner Bros.
Joaquin Phoenix recently finalized his deal to star as the arch-nemesis of Batman and shooting will begin September in New York.
Todd Phillips is directing and co-wrote the script, which the studio describes as being an “exploration of a man disregarded by society [that] is not only a gritty character study, but also a broader cautionary tale.” Scott Silver co-wrote the script.
The studio hasn’t staked out a release date for the movie, which goes against the grain of most comic book movies that plant flags years in advance. But the Joker standalone movie is meant to be different from other comic book super hero movies.
The budget is in the $55 million range, significantly lower than the tentpoles that dominate the form. And the standalone is meant to be darker and more experimental in tone and content (at least as experimental as a studio can be with established brands such as DC), which is described as being akin to a crime drama.
That said, there is a chance that the movie could be ready for a release as early as late 2019, depending on various factors.
Warners has a possible second Joker movie in the works as Jared Leto, who played the character in Suicide Squad, now has his own solo movie project in development.
Emma Tillinger Koskoff (The Wolf of Wall Street) is producer on the Joker origin standalone while Richard Baratta is an exec producer.
Inb 4 the origin story is not an origin story. :V
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... Wow, that does sound like a complicated origin. Using the new one indeed seems like a better move.