Full fledged sequel to Okami rumoured for Ps3

Not a Gaiden game like Okamiden, a full on sequel.

http://www.thatvideogameblog.com/2011/04/08/okami-sequel-coming-to-ps3/

That rumor is just suggesting the possibility. Not that they're planning on making one. Still, I'd like for this to happen.

Do you really think they'd write it that way? The magazine I mean, not the site.

Okamiden is a sequel. A Gaiden Game is a side story.

I would dearly love more Okami, but I'd actually prefer it on the 3DS or NGP - the touchpad made the brush techniques so much easier to perform than on the PS 2 or Wii.

edited 10th Apr '11 3:50:50 PM by ccoa

Does it follow Amaterasu? The title is a portmanteu of Okami and Gaiden, so it calls itself a Gaiden game. It is a retread of the story with the children of previous characters, effectively making it Okami Babies

edited 10th Apr '11 4:07:50 PM by Alienation

Not interested if it's made by Capcom.

A sequel is a narrative, documental, or other work of literature, film, theatre, or music that continues the story of or expands upon issues presented in some previous work. In the common context of a narrative work of fiction, a sequel portrays events set in the same fictional universe as a previous work, usually chronologically following the events of that work.

In many cases, the sequel continues elements of the original story, often with the same characters and settings.

Tell me how it's not a sequel. Simply not having the same protagonist does not make it not a sequel. Having a similar story (although not nearly as similar as you're trying to paint it) does not make it not a sequel.

Also, the name is not a portmanteau of anything. "Den" is not short for "gaiden", it is the word den (伝) which translates to "legend, tradition, story, biography, chronicles, life, method, or way". Incidentally, this is the same word that is in "gaiden", which is literally "another (gai) story (den)." That's why they sound similar.

edited 10th Apr '11 9:42:38 PM by ccoa

Don't most gaiden games fit into that definition of sequel? For example, Portable Ops and Ninja Gaiden Dragon Sword?

Portable Ops is a sequel (to MGS 3). And it's kind of important to the story as a whole, featuring the first Metal Gear, an explanation of how the Patriots began, and laying the groundwork for Outer Heaven.

Just because it's on a portable device does not mean it's a Gaiden Game. Likewise, being a Gaiden Game and being a sequel are not mutually exclusive.

Okami Den, I would call a sequel. It continues where the last story left off.

edited 11th Apr '11 5:45:40 AM by LizardBite

Okay then, fine, whats an example of a Gaiden game?

"A Side Story" basically. Like I said, being a Gaiden Game and being a sequel are not mutually exclusive. Resident Evil 3 and Valkyria Chronicles III are both examples of both. Portable Ops could be considered both as well.

Essentially, a game is a Gaiden Game if has one of the following traits:

1. It follows a side character in a previous game or games. (Kingdom Hearts 358 Days Over 2, Crisis Core)
2. It tells the same story as a previous game or games but from a new perspective. (Valkyria Chronicles III)
3. It doesn't fit in canonically with the main series or doesn't require playing the main series or game in order to fully understand the plot or you don't have to play it to fully understand further games in the series. (the Breath Of Fire fishing cell phone game)

EDIT: Hmm, perhaps the trope needs a TRS thread. The description is confusing.

We can eliminate the first two, so it's the last we need to concentrate on. I'd contend that it fits in with the continuity of Okami fairly well, and knowing how Orochi was killed (twice) is necessary to fully understand what's going on when Chibi travels back in time and helps out in the past. For example, knowing why Nagi is in drag, why rescuing Shiranui creates a Stable Time Loop, etc..

It's possible that future games in the series (assuming there ever are any) will not require knowing the events of Okamiden, though. But we can't really judge that right now.

I can understand why you felt it was a less than satisfying sequel. Story-wise, it was indeed inferior to the original game. And the cuteness bordered on Tastes Like Diabetes at times.

edited 11th Apr '11 7:21:33 AM by ccoa

But wait a minute, its in clear violation of the first, but with the added effect of both characters having never been seen (or having any indication of being able to exist) before the game.

How so? Chibi wasn't a character in the first game, so he's not a "side character" by definition. You just kinda contradicted yourself.

Plenty of sequels have a different protagonist, after all.

EDIT: For reference, a side character is defined as a supporting character. They have to at least be mentioned to fulfill this role.

edited 11th Apr '11 6:24:01 PM by ccoa

Look at the Metal Gear series after Solid. The four games have three different protagonists.

On topic, if there is another game featuring Amaterasu, I would really like to see some Shiranui-level powers. Yes, I realize this would be absolutely broken, but I was in awe during the fight against the twin demons. To quote myself on the subject, "A BOMB THE SIZE OF CENTRAL PARK." Sure you get the look during the Final Battle, but your powers are still very much missing something. The ultimate good versus the ultimate evil should really be quite a bit more epic than that was.

One way to make it not broken is to scale up enemy power and/or size accordingly. If your enemies are Colossus-sized, then an enormous cherry bomb is less useful than one might hope.

Shiranui wasn't that much more powerful than Ammy from what I could see, though.

I'm about two hours into Okami Den and actually having a lot of trouble with the stylus. It seems to randomly skip; I have to try four or five times to draw a circle.

Although they nailed the general feel, it does seem to be more of a retread (same locations, same characters so far). Also, part of the greatness of the original was the beautiful landscapes and animation, of which the DS isn't quite capable of to the same extent. The 3DS would probably ameliorate that though.