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halfmillennium Since: Dec, 1969
#1: Apr 7th 2011 at 6:22:59 AM

At the moment, the requirements for Stock Episode Titles are that at least five unrelated programmes have used the title.

Isn't that a bit broad? Five episodes using the same title is certainly possible even if the author doesn't copy the title. Would it be a good idea to move the goalposts: say, set the required number at 20 or perhaps 15? 15 is roughly halfway down the page. Even 10 would eliminate some of the obscure entires on the page.

edited 7th Apr '11 6:24:07 AM by halfmillennium

EternalSeptember Since: Sep, 2010
#2: Apr 7th 2011 at 2:54:31 PM

Most of the more popular ones are't really Shout-Out-based either, it's things like "Escape", or "The Hero", while others with 5-6 examples aren't less meaningful than that.

halfmillennium Since: Dec, 1969
#3: Apr 8th 2011 at 1:01:35 AM

A stock episode title doesn't have to be a Shout-Out. Regardless, we could avoid this debate by following the page's claim to list the most popular examples as opposed to titles that five series have used.

edited 8th Apr '11 1:03:02 AM by halfmillennium

chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#4: Apr 8th 2011 at 5:09:39 AM

I think the page would benefit if we tighten the requirement to 10 episodes.

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#5: Sep 14th 2011 at 7:46:10 AM

This whole page just looks like someone made a chart from imdb.

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unhappyyak :( from Minneapolis Since: Apr, 2009
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#6: Sep 14th 2011 at 7:47:01 AM

I agree with restricting to 10 as well.

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#7: Sep 14th 2011 at 8:32:02 AM

I think 10 is too low, considering how long television shows have been using episode titles. For an episode title to be "stock", I think 25 should be the absolute low bound.

There are 693 entries on the chart. 514 if we cut it off at 10 or more. 479 if we cut it off at more than 10. There will still be 182 entries if we cut it off at 25 or more.

edited 14th Sep '11 8:37:10 AM by Madrugada

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#8: Sep 14th 2011 at 8:33:46 AM

I agree. 25 sounds good. 10 sounds like coincidence.

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unhappyyak :( from Minneapolis Since: Apr, 2009
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#9: Sep 14th 2011 at 8:37:50 AM

Sounds good. I'm not set on a number; 25 still leaves quite a few examples on the page.

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#10: Sep 14th 2011 at 8:41:46 AM

Honestly, I'd personally like to set it even higher, but 25 works. It's not the length of the page that makes it a good page, and with tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of episode titles, (?

) 10 shows using the same episode titles is hardly "stock".

edited 14th Sep '11 8:42:00 AM by Madrugada

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#11: Sep 14th 2011 at 8:46:02 AM

I wouldn't mind it at 50 or 100 personally so that it's real stock titles and not just coincidence.

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#12: Sep 14th 2011 at 9:08:13 AM

Well, I found a way to sort of get an answer-ish to "how many episode titles does IMDB list, anyway?" When I searched for TV episodes with "the" in the name, I got 126,723. So it's lots more than that.

I'll call it 150,000 for round numbers. That means that 10 episodes using the same name is such a tiny fraction of 1% that my calculator says the result is 6.666666666666666666666666666667e-5. 100 is the same except it end in "e-4". 1000 is 0.006 percent.

edited 14th Sep '11 9:08:57 AM by Madrugada

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#13: Sep 15th 2011 at 3:16:37 AM

So we should make it OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!

Considering the anti-stock phrase crusade, is this still a good idea to have at all? Seems like it's Not A Trope to me.

Twentington Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Desperate
#14: Dec 3rd 2011 at 12:49:06 PM

Stale since September. Is this done?

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